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KayHenry
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AbandonedSpring
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Are there any recent examples where America has shown progression or disregard for the ideals outlin

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/19/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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KayHenry

Con

I don't think America has necessarily lived up to the ideals in the Declaration of Independence. People have been going off of the Civil Rights Movements and such but are they any recent examples that show your position, things currently in our society?
AbandonedSpring

Pro

Hello, and thank you for starting this debate! This is a very interesting topic!

First, I would like to provide a selection from the DOI.
"For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences"

Already just in this selection, we can see that the American government has at least followed these.
Now, recently, the government thousands upon thousands of trials by jury. A this month case would be U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan - October 2014: Balfour v. Howes
There is nothing special about this case, however, it does prove my side of the argument.

Thank you, I am finished.

http://law.justia.com...
Debate Round No. 1
KayHenry

Con

KayHenry forfeited this round.
AbandonedSpring

Pro

I am going to reaffirm that America has definitely stuck to at least a couple of the ideals of the founding fathers. While of course this is a completely different America then it was hundreds of years ago, a lot of the same truths that were held back then are still held now.

Thanks, I am finished.
Debate Round No. 2
KayHenry

Con

KayHenry forfeited this round.
AbandonedSpring

Pro

Alright, he has forfeited twice. Vote Pro!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by AbandonedSpring 2 years ago
AbandonedSpring
All I am here to do is prove that at one point we had made progress. It's irrelevant what we look like today.
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
Sure a welfare state.We declared INDEPENDANCE from Great Britain. Then we voted in democrats that made almost half of Americans DEPENDANT on them.We swapped 1 tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants in our own country.
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Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
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