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Rorodog
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mkatkannon
Pro (for)
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Are vampires always evil? ("Con" if you do not think that they are always evil)

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Rorodog
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/30/2013 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Rorodog

Con

Vampires are not always evil. In fact, they are portrayed as good in many different movies and stories. There are the "Twilight" movies, "Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant", "Dark Shadows", "The Little Vampire", "The Vampire Diaries", "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Underworld", to name just a few.
mkatkannon

Pro

First, Dracula, pretty much the prince of darkness, evil incarnate, and vampires were literally made to suck life and blood out of people and corrupt them to the cause, if that doesn't show anything, I don't know what will.
Debate Round No. 1
Rorodog

Con

There are even good vampires within the old legends. The Stregoni Benefici are a race of Italian vampires that help sick people and are mortal enemies with the evil vampires.
mkatkannon

Pro

Now, unless a vampire has thirst for blood, it's not a vampire, and trust me, the vampire would thirst, making it tempted to suck the blood of anyone near it. Now if something kills something, i don't consider it as good. But also a vampire is considered as an unholy creature, and it is hurt by the sun, which many believe represents kindness and happiness. If a cross hurts it, then it is clearly something more satanic. Making it highly evil as a creature. As long as it's a vampire, there is no good.
Debate Round No. 2
Rorodog

Con

There are now loads of alternatives in which vampires can use to get the blood that they need to drink. Vampires can now drink fake blood, blood banks, animal blood* and even human blood that they will have collected or had collected from people, without killing them. Some vampires have even been known to heal any cut that they make after they have fed from the person. The person would probably then only get ill to the same extent as if they had the flu after that. They may even ask the person first before they feed and/or have a willing donor, if they are able to cope with their blood supply coming from just one person and not being very varied.
mkatkannon

Pro

The fact they would even give someone something like the flu, or the fact that they would actually need blood still makes the vampire an intensely evil creature. But what if the vampire was locked in a room with 50 humans and there was no escape? The vampire would kill the humans and drink their blood. No matter which vampire.
Debate Round No. 3
Rorodog

Con

No, not necessarily. I am actually thinking of writing a story in which the main character is stranded in another world with a vampire. He tames her and befriends her, and he gives her some of his blood to prevent her from dying, but she does not kill him or even seriously injure him.
Also, I did not say that vampires could give you the flu. I merely compared the weak feeling that may occur after one of their feedings to the flu. Also, it would probably only make them feel a bit sick for couple of days before they were okay again.
Angel, one of the vampires from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", saved a child from being killed by another, demonic vampire. Would you really say that a creature who did such an act was truly evil?
mkatkannon

Pro

mkatkannon forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Rorodog

Con

Before we start bashing them for what they have supposedly done to humans, think about what humans have done to them. Throughout the years, according to movies, legends, books and other stories, humans have used Holy water to burn vampires, as well as tricking them and/or somehow keeping them in the sun, locking them in coffins and allowing them to suffocate, staking them through the heart and otherwise torturing, maiming and killing them. Think about it this way. You are a vampire. You are of the type that have vampiric traits in your appearance, such as pale skin and red eyes. You cannot go into any public place without experiencing persecution and having everyone else there afraid of you. You want to make friends, or even just ask someone something, but you cannot get near anyone without them backing away, insulting you and trying to ward you off, even though you have no intention of harming them. They just think that, because you are a vampire, you want to kill them. All you want to do is just ask them something or befriend them, and/or mind your own business, but you cannot do this because are so feared and persecuted. Everyone thinks that you just want to drain their blood, but you don't.
mkatkannon

Pro

mkatkannon forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Najs 1 year ago
Najs
Con should have mentioned also in their first round the impact of Anne Rice's literature and films based on her writings of vampires and the character and nature of vampires ability of being either good or evil. She is the "The Queen of Gothic Literature" and "Grand Dame of Gothic Fiction", obviously having a huge impact on later literature and entertainment.
Posted by annascat123 2 years ago
annascat123
I was only able to read some of this con is somewhat right about us vampires. We can go mins, hours, days, weeks, months, and even years without having to have blood. But that's because most vampires don't know they are vampires. There's two ways of being a vampire, one, being turned (by exchaning of blood vampire drinking first) and second way is being born a vampire (I was born a vampire). People who was born a vampire, like I was, had an awakening anywhere from ages of 13 through some even never. I found out I am one by the age of 13. Only person's blood I've ever had is my own. We are not undead. We are human just a different race. I'll tell you more if you ask cya
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Vote Placed by Ragnar 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: There simply wasn't much to this debate... Pro FF'd. S&G was the same. Neither had sources, which would have helped bring up the stories they get this stuff from. Pro based his assumption off option and stereotype. Con listed good Italian vampires from ancient legends, an immediate win.
Vote Placed by funwiththoughts 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: FF.