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Asians and whites are smarter than blacks and hispanics on average.

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Started: 9/7/2014 Category: People
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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I will be argueing pro for whites and asians are smarter than hispanics and blacks on average in iq and general intelligence


I'll take the challenge because I'm man enough. The history of the race and intelligence controversy concerns the historical development of a debate, concerning possible explanations of group differences encountered in the study of race and intelligence. Since the beginning of IQ testing around the time of World War I there have been observed differences between average scores of different population groups, but there has been no agreement about whether this is mainly due to environmental and cultural factors, or mainly due to some genetic factor, or even if the dichotomy between environmental and genetic factors is a correct approach to the debate.

In the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, group differences in intelligence were assumed to be due to race and, apart from intelligence tests, research relied on measurements such as brain size or reaction times. By the mid-1930s most psychologists had adopted the view that environmental and cultural factors predominated. In the mid-1960s, physicist William Shockley sparked controversy by claiming there might be genetic reasons that black persons in America tended to score lower on IQ tests than whites. In 1969 the educational psychologist Arthur Jensen published a long article with the suggestion that compensatory education had failed to that date because of genetic group differences. A similar debate among academics followed the publication in 1994 of The Bell Curve by Richard Herr stein and Charles Murray. Their book prompted a renewal of debate on the issue and the publication of several interdisciplinary books on the issue. One contemporary response was a report from the American Psychological Association that found no conclusive explanation for the observed differences between average IQ scores of racial groups. A 2012 review article in the journal American Psychologist and a rejoinder to a reply to that article are some of the latest publications prompted by the debate.
Debate Round No. 1


Most important fact that needs to be addressed is that my opponent will not bring forth his own unique arguments. He has plagerized other websites. Thus the arguments presented were not his own and this is misconduct. Sources themselves are not the argument. They simply provide evidence that support argument.

If one were to search up what my opponent presented it could be seen as verbatim as shown in the following pictures.
and so we see those exact arguments my opponent presented showed up word for word.

Now to refute 'his' argument . My opening argument in round 1 states that whites and asians are generally smarter than blacks and hispanics. I did not mention it had to be due to genetics. In the first paragraph my opponent confirms there are differences between the groups. That supports my argument a group difference exists. Even if environmental or cultural factors caused the difference, my argument is still being supported. So therefore controversy over what causes the difference does not hurt my argument since my argument is based around there is a difference.

Again same with the 2nd paragraph. My opponent agrees there is a difference between the groups so my argument is once again being supported.

Now to present my argument. Whites and Asians have the higher income compared to blacks like me and hispanics.
This source will prove it. and those groups having higher income will naturally have better education. As we see with this correlation. and so higher education puts them at a higher intelligence. This corelation shows it. the conclusion is that overall higher salary of certain groups causes them to be more intelligent than certain other groups. Also here is a concluding graph.

So far my arugment has been based on higher income resulting in higher iq but genetics does play a role too. I wish to show whites and asians have both superior genetics and income so that whether it be genetics or income or both, whites and asians are proven to be more intelligent. Genetics obviously determines skull size since genetics is coding for protein structuring and the skull is built through much protein synthesis. and there is a correlation between cranial size and iq. and so genetics must also therefore play a role in iq. Conclusion is whites and asians have higher income and bigger skulls and thus higher iqs. It doesn't matter whther social class or genetics cause it. As long as there is a difference my argument is then correct.


Yo Man U did that not me I put it in my. Words. BraaaaH
Debate Round No. 2


it's noteworthy that i google searched what you had written and websites have given those exact same words. I even have the google search pictures in my previous argument.


Cduca forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3


yo you gotta win and prove your race is smarter than mine.


Cduca forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4


What's yellow and black and makes you laugh ?
A bus full of niggers going over a cliff.
What do you call 100 niggers on the bottom of the sea?
A good start.
What do you call a nigger hitchhiker?
Where is the best place to hide a nigger's food stamps?
Under his work boots.
How can you tell when a black has been on your computer?
It is not there.

Why did the nigger walks into a bar?
The cell door was still locked.
I wouldn't dream of being racist towards my black neighbour.... I'd actually do it.
Did you hear about the guy that broke into the local library and stole hundreds of books?
Nobody knows who he is yet, but police say, "it certainly wasn't a nigger."
A white man walks into a bar and notices a black bartender.
"I'll have a beer, nigger" says the white man.
"Hey there is no need for you talk to me like that. How would you like it if I talked like that to you?" says the black bartender.
"Why don't we swap places and find out?" says the white man.
The white man and black bartender swap places.
How can you tell a black person is lying?
His lips are moving.
What does NAACP stand for?
Now Apes Are Called People
Why do black people have white hands?
Everyone has some good in them.
Why don't niggers go on cruises?
They're not falling for that one again.

"Still hung. Over." replied the KKK member being asked about the condition of the nigger over his 2 way radio.

How dose every black joke start?
With someone looking around to see if their are any black people there
A Mexican and a nigger are riding in car. Who's driving?
A cop.
What do you call a barn full of dead niggers?
Out dated farm equipment.
How did a whole regiment of niggers die in WWII?
When their commander said "get down" they started dancing!
Why do monkeys always look so sad?
They know they'll be black one day.
3 kids in school one day.
The teacher asks them, "What do cows say?"
Amy replies "moo!"
Teacher then asks, "What do sheep say?"
Jack replies, "baa!"
Teacher then asks, "What do pigs say?"
Leroy says "Freeze motherfuckin' nigger, what's in the fuckin' bag?"
Why do all black people run fast?
Because all the slow ones are in jail.
Why are there only 2 pall bearers at a nigger"s funeral?
A garbage can only has two handles!
"Life is like a box of chocolates."
Not all the black ones can be trusted.
How is a nigger like a broken gun?
It doesn"t work and you can"t fire it.
What do you call 10 niggers in a steam room?
Gorillas In The Mist.
A black man takes a girl home from a nightclub.
She says "Show me it's true what they say about black men".
So he stabs her and takes her purse.
What do you get when you cross a nigger and a gorilla?
A really stupid gorilla.

How do you make a nigger nervous?
Take it to an auction.
What's the diffrence between a park bench and a Nigger?
The Bench is the only thing that can support a family.
What does a nigger have in common with a soda machine?
They both don't work and always take your money.
Why don't niggers like asprin?
They're white, they work and you have to pick cotten to find them.
What do you call one black guy on moon?
A problem.
What do you call two black guys on the moon?
A problem
What do you call the entire race of black?
guys on the moon?
A problem solved.

How do you stop a nigger from drowning?
You don't.

Why was the wheelbarrow invented?
To teach niggers to walk on their hind legs.
What did the sunbather shout at the nigger?
Ain't you dark enough already?
What's a crying shame?
When a bus full of niggers drives off a cliff and there were 3 empty seats.
Why are there trees in Harlem?
Public transportation.

A nigger and a little white boy are debating on whether God is black or White. finally the little white boy says, "let's ask God!"
The White boy looks to Heaven and asks, "God, are you black or white?"
God replies, "Well boys, I am what I am."
The White boys exclaims, "well, that proves it, God is White!"
The nigger asks, "how do you know?"
The White boy replies, "if God was a nigger he woulda said 'I iz what I iz!'"
Why do niggers have red eyes after sex?
Pepper spray.
What's the difference between a nigger and a bouncy castle?
You dont take your shoes off to jump on a nigger!
What do you call a nigger with a regular job, who doesn"t drive a lowrider, sleeps in the same bed every night, doesn"t collect welfare, and doesn"t rape White women?
An inmate.
The black guy I was walking behind stopped, turned and asked "Are you following me?"
"No", I said "You've got evolution all mixed up."

What do a nigger and a bicycle have in common?
They only work with a chain on.
Why are niggers' teeth so white?
So you know where to aim your punch when you're about to get mugged at night.
What do you call the New Orleans Superdome full of milk?
Cocoa Puffs.
What was the only thing missing from the million man march?
An auctionner
What do you say when you wake up in the middle of the night and your TVs floating in the air?
Drop it nigger!
What do you call an all-black beach?
A litter box.
Whats the difference between a nigger and a large pizza?
A pizza can feed a family of four.
Whats faster then a nigger running with your TV?
His brother with the VCR.
What do you call 4 black guys in a car?
Tinted windows.
It's true what they say about once you try black, you never go back.
I dated a black girl and now my family has disowned me.

Morpheus and Neo are plugged in to the Matrix and having a chat.
Morpheus turns to Neo, "In this world you can be anything you want."
There is a short silence.
Neo: "Then why are you a nigger?"
What did God say when he made the first nigger?
Oops! I burnt this one!
How are black people and tornadoes similar?
It only takes one to ruin a neighborhood.
What did Whitney Houston and Apollo 13 have in common?
A major crack problem
Why do a lot of niggers go to visit the Liberty Bell?
They heard was was some crack in it.

A niglet tells his dad"Oh noes, dat be us". His nigger dad says "No sons, dats not be quiet"
The captain comes back and says "unfortunately, we haven't lost enough weight yet. I will have to ask all black people to jump overboard."
The niglet tells his dad again"Oh noes, dat be us". His nigger dad says "No sons, dats not be quiet"
The captain comes back and says "unfortunately, we still haven't lost enough weight yet. I will have to ask all colored people to jump overboard."
The niglet tells his dad again"Oh noes, dat be us". His nigger dad says "I said shut up son, we be niggers today!"

What's the best way to keep a nigger confused?
Ask him what's his daddy's last name!
Whitney Houston"s life is like skiing.
Once you get on the white powder, it"s all down hill from there
Why are so many niggers moving to Detroit?
They heard there were no jobs there.
What does cotton have in common with noses?
Niggers are good at picking both.
What do you call a nigger in a suit?
A teacher was giving a lesson and was telling the pupils that we came from Adam and Eve. A hand went up and the kid said, "But my dad told me that we come from apes, Miss?"
Miss replied, "Stay out of this one, Leroy!"
Did you hear that the KKK bought the movie rights to Roots?
They're going to play it backwards so it has a happy ending.
What happens to black people after they die?
Nigger Mortis.
What repulsive thing can be found in a nigger's clothes?
The nigger.
A Liverpool docker went to South Africa for a job. The boss tells him: "Its people like you we want here. Here's a test. There's a revolver, go out and shoot 6 niggers and a rabbit." The docker asks: "Why do I have to shoot the rabbit?" He got the job.

Racism is when you run over a nigger with your truck.
Reverse-racism is when you back up.
Why don't niggers celebrate Thanksgiving?
Kentucky Fried Chicken isn't open on holidays.
If Tarzan and Jane were black, what would Cheetah be?
The brains of the outfit.
Why are so many niggers moving to Detroit?
They heard there were no jobs there.
What does cotton have in common with noses?
Niggers are good at picking both.
Why do niggers always have sex on their minds?
Because of the pubic hair on their heads.
I've got this black friend... just kidding.
Why is making toast like an interracial couple having a baby?
It's annoying when it comes out black.
How do you know Adam and Eve were not black?
You ever try to take a rib from a nigger?
What did Abe Lincoln say after a 3 day drunk?
"I set WHO free?"

What does FUBU stand for?
Farmers Used to Beat Us -OR- Farmers Used to Buy Us
Hear about G.M.'s new nigger Cadillac?
The glove compartment's big enough to hold a watermelon.
What's black and white and goes rolling along the boardwalk?
A nigger and a pigeon fighting over a chicken wing!
How does a girl from Harlem practice safe sex?
She locks the car doors.
What are the 3 things you cannot give a black guy?
A fat lip, a black eye, or a job.
What is the difference between Batman and a black man?
Batman can go into a convenience store without Robin.
What did the Alabama sherriff call the nigger who had been shot 15 times?
Worst case of suicide he had ever seen.
Black magic.... It doesn't work.
I'm not racist, my shadow is black.
Why do pill bottles have cotton buds in the top of them?
To remind niggers that they were cotton pickers before they were drug dealers.
Leeroy is talking to his parents about his problems:
"Mummy, whenever I try to play with the white boys and girls, they always call me a nigger - why is that?
"Well," replies his mum, "that's because you are black."
"And mummy, why do the teachers shout at me and tell me to go away, but they are nice to the white boys and girls?"
"Well," replies his mum, "that's because you are black."
Then Leroy grins and says "Well, whenever I'm in the shower with the white boys I notice that my penis is much bigger than their penises."
"Well," replies his mum, "that's because you are 37."
How has Jesse Jackson lost the vote of most niggers?
He promised to create jobs for them if elected.


Ok so what is this now a joke completion ? I mean what's with all the jokes you prob. didn't make up
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by TryingToBeOpenMinded 1 year ago
I feel sorry for Pro here. Apparently, has so much hate and jealousy bottled up inside. I'm curious if this stems from being a loser in life.
Posted by Rahjee 2 years ago
What was the point of this? For you to be a racist jerk? Grow up!
Posted by janae1234 2 years ago
You're clearly posting this to hurt black people and as a black women I feel sorry for you. We're here in America becuase we were brought here against our will and we aren't leaving. Get used to it.
Posted by negroid 3 years ago
your links don't even support your argument. open them yourself
Posted by negroid 3 years ago
so what was your iq at first and then laterA311;Who said statistic came from online tests?
Posted by philosurfer 3 years ago
Women score 8 to 10 points higher then men on most academic tests. According to your logic, men should NOT be counted the same as women based on these results [] & []

Further, do you think how well someone can take tests measures a kind of true raw intelligence?

I took IQ practice tests and improved my score by at least 30 points by learning how to take that kind of test and what answers look like for those kinds of tests - pattern recognition and so forth.

There are over nine different kinds of intelligence that have been confirmed. An IQ test can only account for two or three minimally and studies indicate that people who have specialized training or work in fields that use these different kinds of intelligence often will score higher, meaning that even these kinds of intelligence(s) tested for on IQ tests are mutable and learn-able based on neuro-plasticity and use of the information. The old saying, "If you don't use it, you will lose it.." is true.

Also, if what you are saying is true, should we then require that people who have disabilities or confirmed mental handicaps not be permitted to vote or be considered equally in other arenas..?! And if so, wouldn't this be an infringement on their Constitutional rights which cannot be refused based on disability, creed, gender, etc., etc. ..?
Posted by negroid 3 years ago
con has plagergerized
Posted by Vajrasattva-LeRoy 3 years ago
For Negroid:
You should be more accurate in using the general term "Asians" ,
but otherwise you're apparently quite correct.
Check out the books by Psychology Professor Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster,
such his book on The Global Bell Curve.
He apparently not only claims that the average IQ differences between Blacks & Whites, etc. , is correct, but that that information & that the difference is genetically based has been scientifically verified.
Check out The Bell Curve, try IMAGES.
I never have understood why verified scientific results keep being referred to as "racism" .
What does so-called "racism" have to do with it?
Nobody in their right mind would keep insisting that it's all "institutionalized racism" .
Posted by negroid 3 years ago
could someone help me read my previous post i'm illiterate
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro provided much better arguments, Con forfeited, which is why I gave conduct to nobody. Telling rude jokes is on par with not even participating in the debate. Pro brought up great points, Con didn't even bother to dispute them. Pro made a great argument.
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Reasons for voting decision: I'm giving conduct to Con due to Pro's behavior in the final round.