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ant90h
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cmalt13
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Assault weapon practically.

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Started: 2/3/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ant90h

Pro

Assault weapons are nothing more than common sporting rifles.

Here is an example. Many will argue the AR-15 is the most practical firearm of all time, hence the popularity. The AR-15 uses a modular system, therefore it can quickly be configured for many different scenarios. Hunting, target shooting, self defense, just to name a few. It can be configured to fire many different calibers and projectiles. In it's normal configuration it has reasonable recoil and can be adjusted to suit people of all builds.
cmalt13

Con

The problem with these guns lies right in the title. "Assault" weapons. They are designed to kill people, which is why they are used so often in the military. Regular US citizens who aren't in the military do not have a need for such high powered weapons. Ordinary rifles that aren't semi-automatic are just as versatile. They can also be used for hunting, target shooting and self defense. In what practical sense can these assault weapons perform what other rifles or handguns cannot?
Debate Round No. 1
ant90h

Pro

The term "assault weapon" is an ambiguous political term used to classify semi-automatic firearms based on superficial features which are believed to resemble those of actual military firearms. The determining features vary between governing bodies.

Firearms which can be classified as assault weapons are not used by any military. Assault weapons should not be confused with assault rifles, their select-fire(ergo fully automatic) military counterparts. Some will argue the term was intentionally created to fool to ignorant public into thinking they are fully automatic machine guns.

The majority of firearms classified as assault weapons fire a cartridge of relatively moderate firepower, much less than a typical hunting cartridge. A typical .223 Remington cartridge commonly used in the AR-15 has about 1,700 Joules of energy. The .308 Winchester cartridge, a common hunting caliber, has more than double the energy, at around 3,800 joules.

Almost half of all firearms sold in the last 30 years are semi-automatic, therefore it would be reasonable to say semi-automatics are ordinary. Firearms with manually operated actions require a manipulation before each shot and therefore have a lower rate of fire. A semi-automatic does not require a manipulation before each shot which allows the user to keep both hands on the firearm which engaged with a target. This could mean increased effectiveness particularly during a high stress situation. Because of this all modern sporting rifles are semi-automatic, including the infamous AR-15. These modern sporting rifles are modular and highly customizable, a plethora of aftermarket parts is available. These rifles can easily fitted with various ergonomic features which appeal to people of all age, size and gender. In a matter of minutes an AR-15 can be setup to fire many types of ammunition. You could go from a small target caliber, to an inexpensive pistol caliber, to standard .223 caliber, to a large caliber suitable for hunting. You could even convert to fire ballistic darts. Field stripping for cleaning or disassembly for maintenance can be done in minutes with minimal skill. Many other firearms require various tools and gunsmiths expertise.

So to answer your last question, all firearms essentially perform the same function, however the semi-automatic counterparts do the job better. Furthermore, assault weapons function no differently,and are inherently no more dangerous than any other semi-automatic rifles.
cmalt13

Con

I should have stated this in the previous round, but I am not a gun expert so I'm not hip with the lingo used in the gun community.Anyways let's continue.
Based on your most recent argument, the only advantage these weapons have over others is that it's easier to kill people with them. Their higher rate of fire would make it much easier to orchestrate a mass shooting. This has been proven in recent events such as the Sandy Hook shootong. Without the use of these weapons, the shooter would not have been able murder the victims as easily as they did. And don't pull out the cliche "guns don't kill people, people kill people." I agree with that statement. And yes, banning these guns won't completely stop them from being used. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't at least make an effort to prevent future.incidents.
You say these guns are similar to other guns, what's wrong with using the "legal" ones? Can people not protect themselves with pistols. Can Hunters not hunt with hunting rifles? Please give me a practical reason for which these specific guns are used. So far you've only shown how they can more easily be used as ruthless killing machines.
Debate Round No. 2
ant90h

Pro

The purpose this debate was to argue the practicality of civilian owned semi-automatic firearms which may be classified as assault weapon. Legislation, and hypothetical mass-shootings are entirely different topics. But I will say, although I believe a modern semi-automatic to be optimal in a high stress situation, in a massacre such a Newtown, CT in the same amount of time a manually operated firearm could have inflicted just as much damage on the unarmed victims.

Handguns are extremely difficult to obtain legally in many parts of the country, so they are many times not an option. I don't believe anything to be inherently wrong with any style of firearm. Ergonomic features such as collapsible stocks and forward grips help the user control the firearm better and do not increase firepower in any way. Control over a firearm is paramount in a home defense situation because of the potential to penetrate walls. A hunting rifle is a rifle which is used to hunt. Many people hunt with AR-15s. Many rifles marketed for hunting would be considered assault weapons under the new AW bill. For example, a standard semi-auto hunting rifle fitted with a pistol grip for comfort would be banned.

You do understand the assault weapons ban is based not on firepower, capacity, rate of fire, etc. but features such as pistol grips, bayonettes, practically unusable grenade launchers, heat dissipating shrouds, etc. ?
cmalt13

Con

cmalt13 forfeited this round.
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