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Atheists believe mythological ideas

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Started: 1/26/2016 Category: Religion
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--Atheists believe in mythology

"The giant birds of Native American mythology"

-Cigwe (more commonly spelled Chequa or Chequah) is the Potawatomi Thunderbird, a giant mythological bird common to the northern and western tribes.

-Culloo was a giant bird of prey, said to eat humans and be large enough to carry off a child.

"Terror birds"

"Titanis" giant bird

It was once believed that Titanis became extinct in North America around the time of the arrival of humans, but subsequent datings of Titanis fossils provided no evidence for their survival after 1.8 Ma. Still, reports from Uruguay of new findings dating to 450,000 and 17,000 years ago, would imply that some phorusrhacids survived there until very recently (i.e., until the late Pleistocene); but this claim is debated.

The Water Leaper, also known as Llamhigyn Y Dwr, is an evil creature from Welsh folklore that lived in swamps and ponds.

It is described as a giant frog with a bat's wings instead of forelegs, no hind legs, and a long, lizard-like tail with a stinger at the end. It jumps across the water using its wings, hence its name.

A flying frog (also called a gliding frog) is a frog that has the ability to achieve gliding flight. That is, it can descend at an angle of less than 45" relative to the horizontal. Other (non-flying) arboreal frogs can also descend vertically, but only at angles greater than 45", which is referred to as parachuting.

During an archaeological dig in Sayre, Bradford County, Pennsylvania"a number of human remains were dug up. The skeletons of these artifacts were all anatomically correct for human beings, but they had one odd feature, projections (horns)"protruding"from the skull above the eyebrow. The fact that they had horns and that they would have been seven feet tall in real life provides people with reason to doubt the "authenticity" of these remains. However, this was not the first time skulls like this were discovered. Similar skulls have been found in Wellsville, New York and El Paso, Texas. The remains were sent to the American Investigating Museum in"Philadelphia, were they were"conveniently"stolen never to be seen again.

Another mysterious case of skulls, are the notable Peruvian skulls excavated near Nazca. Similarly to the horned skulls, they were believed to have been very tall, up to nine feet! This odd"phenomenon was also found in Mexico, just as the horned skulls were found at other locations. The difference though, is that these skulls" cranial portion are elongated to an unbelievable extent.

Human skulls with human horns


I have a hard time disproving any of the things that you have said in your opening argument because they have nothing to do with atheism.

According to Merriam - Webster :
a. a disbelief in the existence of deity
b. the doctrine that there is no deity

Atheism is not a religion, or even a group because atheists don't have any rituals to tie them together as a group if anything what makes a person atheist is the fact that they don't have rituals of submitting to a higher power.
Basically words can be used to point to the presence of something, or, point to the lack of presence of something and atheism is a negative word used to point at individuals lack of belief in divine power, so by definition atheists cannot believe in any divine creature because the do not believe in anything supernatural and the lack of that belief is what makes them atheist.

The mythological creatures you have mentioned were not worshiped by atheist (because atheist don't worship anything) they were worshiped by primitive societies like the native americans. And those societies were polygamous like all primitive societies and tribes they worshiped all manner of creatures some real and some fictional, but they worshiped so they cannot be atheist.

But the main point I should point to is that you have got something confused, and you do not understand the meaning of atheism.
Debate Round No. 1


The question of our origin or where did everything come from has only two possible answers. Either the universe arose by itself or it did not. If it did then some sort of cosmic evolution must have taken place to account for reality. If it didn"t then there must be a Creator. There is no third option.

POINT: Atheism needs Evolution.

"Richard Dawkins wrote that his discovery of evolution had enabled him to be an "intellectually fulfilled atheist."

-Many people seem convinced that the theory of evolution is based on an analysis of brute facts that clearly prove evolution has been a real process throughout history. As arch-evolutionist Richard Dawkins said:
"You have got millions and millions of pieces of evidence which no reasonable person can possibly dispute."

"I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world."

-Richard Dawkins

Whale evolution has been the monumental "prover" that evolution is true and real.

The Atheist Mythological creature: The Walking Whale

The best-known protocetid, Rodhocetus is known from two partial skeletons that taken together give a complete image of an Eocene whale that had short limbs with long hands and feet that were probably webbed and a sacrum that was at immobile with four partially fused sacral vertebrae.[3] It is one of several extinct whale genera that possess land mammal characteristics, thus demonstrating the evolutionary transition from land to sea.

The Science behind Rodhocetus

In this video the finder behind Rodhocetus tells about how he figured it had a fluked tail and flippers. This was one of the connecting creatures, a rare intermediate, to show progression of evolution. It turns out, the tail was a guess. The flippers were a guess and dead wrong.


I am sorry, but I don't have the time to write a good and detailed argument.

The question of our origin or where did everything come from has only two possible answers. Either the universe arose by itself or it did not. If it did then some sort of cosmic evolution must have taken place to account for reality. If it didn"t then there must be a Creator. There is no third option.

POINT: Atheism needs Evolution.

Yes I agree with you 100% atheists believe in evolution that is the only thing that they can believe in if they don't believe in a deist creator.
But, and it is a big but being an atheist doesn't make one an expert in evolution, and it is important to know that evolution is a separate field of science and like in any other such field any expert can have an opinion on whether some creature existed because of the evidence presented or it didn't.

Stance of atheists on evolution is: yes we believe that humans and every other life form on earth is a descendant of the ocean bacteria and we do not believe in a creator. That however does not mean that we all spend any great amount of time studying evolution and all the creatures that evolution has created, most of us simply do not care.

We reject all other ideas of how we came into existence and believe in the scientific proof, that doesn't mean every atheist spends his time studying the science behind evolution and the universe in detail.

I am sorry for a bit spotty argument, we are using a 24 hour clock and I have a headache.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by CarlosOcano 8 months ago
I think it the depends on the Atheists I think haha
Posted by geho89 8 months ago
Apparently, atheists eat babies too! *shrugs*
Posted by brontoraptor 8 months ago
Accept the debate and you will find out.
Posted by snkcake666 8 months ago
Literally, how does this relate to atheists?
Posted by diarrhea_of_a_wimpy_kid 8 months ago
I have a horned skull but don't believe in atheists.
Posted by Reformist 8 months ago
As an atheist I dont in any of these things

So I guess your wrong
Posted by brontoraptor 8 months ago
You are welcome. You learn something new every day eh?
Posted by CarlosOcano 8 months ago
Huh, that was awesome, I never knew Athiests believed in these things lol thanks for the info.
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