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RebelRebelDixieDixie01
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Atheists have morals

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/16/2014 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 547 times Debate No: 44085
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theta_pinch

Pro

Atheist DO have morals.
RebelRebelDixieDixie01

Con

Then where do they come from? India?
Debate Round No. 1
theta_pinch

Pro

Then where do they come from? India?

Since most atheists are secular humanists I will focus on that.

This is what wikipedia says about the origin of their morals: Many Humanists derive their moral codes from a philosophy of utilitarianism, ethical naturalism or evolutionary ethics, and some advocate a science of morality.
RebelRebelDixieDixie01

Con

Morlas, if decided by a human, wouldn't be morals, because if every human decided his own morals, the evil humans would go around killing people and it would be ok.
Debate Round No. 2
theta_pinch

Pro

MORALS: a person's standards of behavior or beliefs concerning what is and is not acceptable for them to do.

Morlas, if decided by a human, wouldn't be morals, because if every human decided his own morals, the evil humans would go around killing people and it would be ok.

You're argument is invalid because the definition of morals makes it personal. While it's unappealing those evil people are acting according to their moral; what they believe is acceptable and unacceptable.

However much of society does have similar morals; which actually goes against the idea that morals come from God because no matter what God a person has they all get very similar morals even though "there is only one true God that gives morals."So atheists CAN have morals.
RebelRebelDixieDixie01

Con

Do you not understand if atheiss made the morals the world would go to trash? The truth is, Atheists are atheists because they dont want to follow religious law i.e. MORALS
Debate Round No. 3
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Pro

It doesn't matter what the morals do to the world it just matters that they are morals. Also secular humanists seem to have pretty good morals and secular humanists are atheists.

The truth is, Atheists are atheists because they dont want to follow religious law i.e. MORALS

Religious laws aren't morals. Also if you ask any atheist they will tell you they are an atheist because they don't believe God exists.

CONCLUSION
I have proved with secular humanism that atheists do have morals that even theists would consider moralistic. In this debate Con has not made a single valid argument, instead talking about what would happen if atheists made morals which isn't even relevant.
RebelRebelDixieDixie01

Con

Atheists, cant have morals, if they did, they wouldn't be Atheists! Humanists believe HUMANS are the top being, if they are, they cant have morals, because if you had morals you would be able to accept a higher being.

I rest my case
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by XLAV 2 years ago
XLAV
*facepalm*
Posted by RebelRebelDixieDixie01 2 years ago
RebelRebelDixieDixie01
And my grand father's mother is from India, actual India
Posted by RebelRebelDixieDixie01 2 years ago
RebelRebelDixieDixie01
I am, if you trace it back far enough
Posted by Wylted 2 years ago
Wylted
I thought you were jewish
Posted by RebelRebelDixieDixie01 2 years ago
RebelRebelDixieDixie01
Not both of my parents, my moms fathers fathers father was from an Indian tribe and my dads side was the confederate, and differant maiden names were Indian from India.
Posted by kbub 2 years ago
kbub
Reb, I thought you had relatives who were Confederate Officers (only white)? Why would you say "Indian" if your parents were Indian? Isn't it coincidental that both your parents happened to be "Indian" in both senses, just when you made an argument that could be perceived as offensive toward "Indians?"
Posted by theta_pinch 2 years ago
theta_pinch
rebel; have you just been joking this entire time?
Posted by Nels4Tats 2 years ago
Nels4Tats
I'm gonna have to go with pro on this debate because honestly con, you have made absolutely 0 valid arguments toward the subject at hand and your logic is completely innacurate
Posted by RebelRebelDixieDixie01 2 years ago
RebelRebelDixieDixie01
I was saying a random place in my mind, I'm 1/2 Indian, yes, Indian from India, and my other half is Indian from the US.
Posted by hidude398 2 years ago
hidude398
CON That reply was so immature and disprespectful, I feel you've already lost. And before you ask and accuse me of being an aetheist, I am a baptised Southern Baptist Church member, and I believe that everyone needs to have a fair shot in a non-discriminating country.
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Reasons for voting decision: This could have been an interesting debate if con had not derped. Con I would read the site orientation in the forum section.
Vote Placed by xXx_Warshak_xXx 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: An Atheist is just like any other Human Being only they believe in no higher being and just for that does not make them have any less morals.
Vote Placed by Wylted 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro made arguments that weren't refuted. Con displayed bad behavior.
Vote Placed by Anon_Y_Mous 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con doesn't seem to understand the (provided) definition of morals. They focused mainly on how bad the world would be if everyone had their own morals, but didn't actually try to disprove that atheists have morals, just that they don't agree with them.