The Instigator
Max.Wallace
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
KhalifV
Pro (for)
Winning
15 Points

Atheists.

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KhalifV
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/6/2015 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (17)
Votes (3)

 

Max.Wallace

Con

Islam is Atheism, as the Islamists believe Man is god. Welcome to the truth.
KhalifV

Pro

C1) The resolution regards atheists, which in of itself is vague. This could regard the validity of atheist ideology or even the moral character of atheists, however is argument has nothing to do with the resolution thus rendering it non-topical.
C2) Just via semantics my opponent looses:
Athiesm is the disbelief in a deity. The prefix "A" means not or dis and theism is the belief in a deity, more so a personal deity, so just by definition Atheism does not equal Islam.
Isalm is very theist as they worship Allah, who is a god in the Abrahamic religions thus he has traits of omnipotence and omniscience and so forth. This verse from the Koran substantiates my assertion that Muslims worship Allah.
"In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate.
Say (O Muhammad) He is God the One God, the Everlasting Refuge, who has not begotten, nor has been begotten, and equal to Him is not anyone."
P3) Allah is a deity(true via definition and the verse I provided)
C1) Muslims worship a deity (natural consequence of p2 and p3)
C3) My opponent's argument is self refuting: He says Atheism is Islam because they believe man is god but my syllogism shows this to be inaccurate.
P1) Atheist don't believe in any deities(true via synthetic a priori)
P2) Muslims worship Allah(Substantiated by the verse I provided)
C2) Atheism is Not equal to Islam.
http://allah.org...
http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 1
Max.Wallace

Con

Atheists believe there is no god, that science cannot explain. Atheists do not believe in idol/god worship. Islamists believe a man named Muhamependejo is a god. So very scientific they be, Ateists. Bring it God killer.
KhalifV

Pro

Adherence to science is independent of religion.
Con is trolling
Debate Round No. 2
Max.Wallace

Con

I am a troll, and all I eat is vegetables. And politicians.
Debate Round No. 3
Max.Wallace

Con

I love your last coherent argument.
Can you tell me how many of the scientists are not funded by public funds/taxation? Who pays for all this "scientific truth"? Politicians never grant others earnings/taxes to scientist's pockets? Is that your argument? Please continue.
KhalifV

Pro


"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

~ Eric Hoffer
Debate Round No. 4
Max.Wallace

Con

A scientific argument, rich with "sources", whose work can neither be proved by the quoter, or disproved by the disbeliever, is the work an ivory tower fool.

Max.Wallace.
KhalifV

Pro

"politeness is the flower of humanity"
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Max.Wallace 1 year ago
Max.Wallace
"Politeness is insanity." Max.Wallace.
Posted by Max.Wallace 1 year ago
Max.Wallace
You would have to meet me to understand how mean I am not. It's a war of words here, that's all. Sleep well brother.
Posted by KhalifV 1 year ago
KhalifV
lol why are you so mean :(?
Posted by Max.Wallace 1 year ago
Max.Wallace
The opponents last suggestion was to kiss the Devils anus. For your own benefit.
Posted by Max.Wallace 1 year ago
Max.Wallace
Says who? ISIS? Politeness is for wimps. The strong people can deflect rudeness, not hide behind the accusation of it. whatever, baby.
Posted by Max.Wallace 1 year ago
Max.Wallace
If there is a god, it is an alien. That is an indisputable idea. God is not from Earth.
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
What ever we say and think is atheism..No Word of any god has been spoken by anything but a human..
Posted by KhalifV 1 year ago
KhalifV
sorry my syllogism got mixed up when posting but you get the jist
Posted by joetheripper117 1 year ago
joetheripper117
Please make your resolution more clear, and I might accept this debate.
Posted by Biodome 1 year ago
Biodome
Islam = Atheism = Knowledge = Truth = 1
Theism = Belief = False = 0
Islam - Atheism = 1 - 1 = 0 = False

Con's resolution is negated.
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Vote Placed by YaHey 1 year ago
YaHey
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct: Con only started the debate to troll, and acted very rude. Arguments: Con didn't really make any arguments, and the actual topic of the debate was confusing to nail down. All of the possible debate topics were refuted in the first round by Pro, such as showing that atheism isn't islam. Sources: Only Pro used sources.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con clearly showed that Islamists are theists. This negated pro's case.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con wasn't debating, was rude and was trolling. Con didn't present any arguments. Pro is the only one who presented any arguments.