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TEJSN
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jm_notguilty
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Australia is Better Than America

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jm_notguilty
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/28/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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TEJSN

Pro

Of course I believe Australia is better than America for these points:
1) There is a whole lot more interesting flora and fauna, one of the reasons Australia gets so many tourists. A lot of people come to Australia hoping to see a wide range of amazing animals and plants, and they aren't disappointed.

2) There are less people for such a big space. This is not because not as many people want to be here, it is merely because some people are scared (sharks, stingrays, jellyfish, etc.), and we don't let in as many people who might be dangerous (unlike America). The small population is a great thing. Less busy roads, buses and paths help everyone in getting where they are going and having more privacy.

3) Better government system. I believe that the laws and consequences for breaking them are much more appropriate. Even the best of judges can make mistakes, one of the many reasons we lost the death penalty for some more reasonable punishments.

4) Australia is unique. For one, it is the only continent that is an island. There are unique animals and plants and unique people.

5) In Australia there are no guns allowed unless you are certified and trained specially with them. This is much better than being allowed to walk into any old store and buying a weapon. It also encourages violence and nervousness in youths, and this can lead to automatic 'self-defence' with shooting, in other words murder.

Good Luck!
jm_notguilty

Con

Thanks for making this debate.

Now, I was confused when you typed "America", I didn't know which one, so I'll just use Wikipedia's top pick defining 'America' to 'the Americas'. I will refute your arguments one by one: (http://en.wikipedia.org...)

1) There is a whole lot more interesting flora and fauna, one of the reasons Australia gets so many tourists. A lot of people come to Australia hoping to see a wide range of amazing animals and plants, and they aren't disappointed.

Compare it to the flora and fauna in South America, the Amazon Rainforest, mountains, beaches, lakes, the wildlife there is the best. The Anacondas can bite your Kangaroos anytime. The North American wildlife is also spectacular, rare animals, unbelievable mountains, lakes, sights like the Grand Canyon, Niagra Falls, etc.

2) There are less people for such a big space. This is not because not as many people want to be here, it is merely because some people are scared (sharks, stingrays, jellyfish, etc.), and we don't let in as many people who might be dangerous (unlike America). The small population is a great thing. Less busy roads, buses and paths help everyone in getting where they are going and having more privacy.

It's funny how you point out people are scared because of the natural habitat, North and South America has got an estimate of 900 million people, and more dangerous animals live there, but I don't see why people are scared. And 'might be dangerous'? How do you know if a certain person is dangerous or not? That's kinda prejudicial, if you ask me. Small population has its disadvantages, less labor/work force which eventually affects ecoomy. Whereas a larger population has some advantages, the company markets, more jobs, more taxpayers for government projects. Also, just compare Australia to Canada, large country, less people. Both nice though.

3) Better government system. I believe that the laws and consequences for breaking them are much more appropriate. Even the best of judges can make mistakes, one of the many reasons we lost the death penalty for some more reasonable punishments.

Australia has Constitutional Monarchy, so does Canada. The US and Australian system is somewhat based on what the british has, Written Constitutions, representational systems, two major political parties and rigorous legislative processes are all similarities between the two countries. Judges are human, and humans make mistakes. (http://www.peo.gov.au...)

4) Australia is unique. For one, it is the only continent that is an island. There are unique animals and plants and unique people.

Australia (country) and Australia (continent) are two different things. So, it's technically like other continents. Australia (continent) comprises the Australian mainland and proximate islands. Also, the Commonwealth of Australia is not solely an island, it comprises the mainland and some islands under it's jurisdiction. Unique animals and plants... see my rebuttal on 1). Every person is unique, regardless of the race. (http://en.wikipedia.org...)

5) In Australia there are no guns allowed unless you are certified and trained specially with them. This is much better than being allowed to walk into any old store and buying a weapon. It also encourages violence and nervousness in youths, and this can lead to automatic 'self-defence' with shooting, in other words murder.

Just like the US, Canada and countries down the south, you need certification and verification, the problem is, the people. It encoruages violence/nervousness in youths? I apologize but I don't get the last sentence, please clarify further.

Thanks, goodluck to my opponent in the next round.



Debate Round No. 1
TEJSN

Pro

TEJSN forfeited this round.
jm_notguilty

Con

Arguments extended.
Debate Round No. 2
TEJSN

Pro

TEJSN forfeited this round.
jm_notguilty

Con

*sighs*

Vote con, since pro forfeited and gave insufficient arguments to refute mine.

Thanks.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by RoyLatham 6 years ago
RoyLatham
There was no need to try a ridiculous semantic argument on the meaning of "America." There is legitimate argument on the meaning of "best" that could have been used instead. When an opponent forfeits, you have to make sure that every argument put forth has been answered before folding the tent.
Posted by jm_notguilty 6 years ago
jm_notguilty
Australia is nice, just saying, goodluck! :)))
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Vote Placed by ApostateAbe 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: If you forfeit, you lose all points, and I don't give a damn
Vote Placed by RoyLatham 6 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con ignored many of the Pro arguments (guns, immigration policy, population density. etc.), leaving them unrefuted. Con's claim to be confused by the meaning of "America" is ridiculous, making most of his other arguments invalid. Pro loses conduct for the forfeit, but wins arguments based on what was said.