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Australia needs to do its fair share in accepting Syrian refugees

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Started: 1/14/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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I don't believe Australia needs to do its fair share in accepting Syrian refugees.


Australia does need to do its fair share in accepting Syrian refugees for the following reasons:

1) Population and Landmass demographics

Australia is the 6th largest nation in the world in terms of overall landmass (at twice the size of India), while at the same time only the 235th in terms of population density (out of 241 listed entries) Australia is therefore one of the emptiest countries in the entire WORLD, second only to maybe Greenland or Antarctica, and therefore has far better capability to take in Syrian refugees than any European nation can.

Meanwhile, a very large chunk of Australia is arid or semi-arid desert, which Syrian refugees are already accustomed to since Syria is almost all desert... This contrasts with Europe or Canada, which have far milder and colder climates compared to the Middle East, which means that climate wise, Australia is far better prepared to easily accomodate Syrian refugees than any nation in Europe or the Americas.

2) Geographic Isolation from terrorism

Australia is one of the most isolated landmasses in the entire world, in that it takes almost a full day or night of flying from another major city in the world to even get to Australia. The reason Isis's top targets are European countries is because they are very easy to get agents inside European nations, whereas slipping agents into faraway Australia would be a tremendously harder effort to undertake.... Its the geographic isolation that is the main reason why Australia ranks around 60th in the Global Terrorism Index, which measures the likelihood of a terrorist attack on a nation on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being no risk at all to 10 being only a matter of time.

Australia scored a 3.12

So Australia is not only one of the best equipped nations to handle refugees from the Middle East, it is also one of the lowest nations at risk of a terrorist attack compared to major nations in Europe or the United States

3) Strict gun control with high legal gun ownership

Following a couple mass shootings in the 1980's, Australia made it very difficult to illegally acquire a handgun within its borders, while at the same time still holding a large gun ownership rate at 1 person in every 4 people owning a handgun in some territories... About 20% (The US averages about 30% by comparison)

Any terrorist activity that does go down in Australis has a decent chance of being thwarted due to both tough gun control laws meant to bar people from illegally getting guns, along with a decent sized population who legally own guns as well, setting it apart from European nations (where people rarely own guns) and the US (where gun control is very lax). This only adds to Australia's ability to handle any terrorist activity that does go down in the country, making it far more capable than others to take in Syrian refugees.

4) Manageable percentage of Islam in the population

Australia is about 2% Islam for a nation of 23 million (meaning about 400,000 Muslims) in 2012

If Australia took in 100 times the number of refugees it plans on taking in for 2015 (12,000 times 100 is 1.2 million), then the percentage of the population that will be Muslim in Australis would only go from 2% to about 6.5%, which would put it on par with Belgium.....

Australia therefore has a very large capability to take in Syrian refugees without the country risking 'Islamification', to the point that increasing the number of refugees it takes in 100 times over would still put the entire population as just over 5% Muslim total......

Australia is one of the best equipped nations to handle taking in Syrian Refugees compared to almost any other nation in the world. Therefore Australia should do its fair share in taking in refugees, since they are far better equipped to take in refugees than other nations who have already taken in way more refugees than Australia has (Such as Canada, Germany, or Sweden)
Debate Round No. 1


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Debate Round No. 2


manige123 forfeited this round.


Scared him off I guess ;)
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by whiteflame 8 months ago
Yeah, I said I made a mistake, tej.
Posted by tejretics 8 months ago

The debate was forfeited, and didn't have any arguments from the other side...
Posted by whiteflame 8 months ago
Posted by imabench 8 months ago
Well it is my 450th win :P
Posted by whiteflame 8 months ago
Well, that's my bad. Admittedly, I had about 20 of these to get through tonight. I'll vote on the damn thing if you're that upset about it.
Posted by imabench 8 months ago
for f*cks sake whiteflame its a FORFEITED debate.....
Posted by whiteflame 8 months ago
>Reported vote: EAT_IT_SUKA// Mod action: Removed<

4 points to Pro (Conduct, Arguments). Reasons for voting decision: PRO did not forfeit and CON did, so points go to PRO for better conduct. PRO upheld the burden of proof and thus earned points for better arguments.

[*Reason for removal*] Merely stating that one side "upheld the burden of proof" is not enough. The voter has to explain what the burden of proof was, how Pro upheld it, and how Con failed to assault it.
Posted by imabench 9 months ago
This should be a quick noobsnipe....
Posted by canis 9 months ago
I am not the ignorant one.........
Posted by WAM 9 months ago
Being German and living in Australia I think I can provide quite a good standpoint on this.

While I do not support immigration of the extend to which it is happening in Germany, I in no way support the way the Australian Government is going about it, as the two are exactly the opposite of the problem.

The Australian Government has policies in place that prevent asylum seekers and refugees from entering the country, and instead places them in 'detention centres' in which the individuals are kept, often for years, until they are either allowed into Australia or taken back to their country.

Many of Germany's migrants are quite badly integrated, however, Australia never has had a negative form of mass immigration (discounting the first settlement). Australia is one of the most multicultural countries in the world, yet seemingly one of the most racist ones as well.

I can understand that they, as they only have a small population, do not want a huge increase in population, however, this does not justify the behaviour they are displaying.

Finally, I have to say that I agree with persianimmortal. Don't stereotype people. Education is your best friend.
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Reasons for voting decision: Full forfeit.