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Ban the RFID Chip!

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Started: 10/30/2013 Category: Society
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erindowning16

Con

The RFID Chip is a Monster. People Get cancer from the RFID chip & other health problems & the worst of all you have no privacy you will always be tracked down hunted down & your peace taken away. Yes that's right the RFID Chip also serve as a Tracking device as well.
Zenock

Pro

I would like to thank erindowning16 for the opportunity to debate this topic.

Several assertions were made by erindowning16 and I will deal with each in turn.

1. The RFID Chip is a Monster

I'm not exactly sure what is meant by this. The RFID chip is very small and there are three types of chips: active, semi-passive, and passive. Active and semi-passive RFID chips include a battery. An active chip uses it's battery to power it's circuits and to assist in broadcasting a semi-passive RFID chip uses its battery to power it's circuit but broadcasts with power leached from the reader. A passive RFID chip powers its circuit and broadcasts with power leached from the reader. The vast majority of RFID chips are of a passive type.

You can read all this information and more here:

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com... (How Stuff Works)
and here:
http://en.wikipedia.org... (WikiPedia)
and here:
http://www.intermec.com...

2. People get cancer from RFID chip and other health problems

I challenge you to produce even one case of cancer in "People" from RFID as you indicate. As far as I can tell the statement that "People" get cancer from RFID chip" is just made up. I looked for instances where "People" have gotten cancer from and RFID chip and was not able to find one. I was able to find some reports that animals specifically mice that were being constantly bombarded with the signals that kept their implanted RFID chip active. Keep in mind that these RFID chips were "IMPLANTED" in the animal that got the cancer and were being constantly bombarded by the reader that kept these chips active.

But your argument isn't whether or not the implanting of RFID chips in people should be banned, but rather that the RFID chip should be banned in its entirety.

Which brings me to the next point, when the RFID chip is not being energized by the reader it is inert. It does not broadcast or generate any signal or radio waves. It just sits there. In fact if the RFID is not of the "active" type it cannot generate or broadcast energy on its own. It only reuses the energy that it receives from the reader to broadcast the information it contains and there is no evidence that these radio waves at the minuscule energy levels that they are broadcast at will cause cancer in people.

Indeed if you are going to ban RFID chips (that in the vast majority of cases generate no radio waves or energy on their own,) because you are afraid that the radio waves they use "might" cause cancer. You better ban the following things as well because they use the same type of waves:

Radio
TV
Cell Phones
Wireless Routers
Walky Talkies
CBs
Wireless keyboards
Wireless Mice
All Bluetooth devices
Pretty much any traditionally wired, wireless device
Remote control airplanes, cars, boats, helicopters etc..

In addition to these items, any device with a motor will generate an electromagnetic field although it doesn't use this field for communication. So this includes items such as...
Vacuum cleaners
Washers
Dryers
Electric Trains
Windshield wipers
etc ... etc...

While you are at it any electronic device at all, will generate an electromagnetic field such as that used for communication by an RFID chip so I guess we should ban ALL electric devices.

There are other things as well that can cause cancer. The sun being number one on the list. So we also need to ban people from going outside.

Point being the risk here is minimal if it exists at all and does not warrant banning.

3. You claim that you have no privacy with an RFID chip that you will always be hunted down and your peace is taken away and then claim that the RFID Chip also serve as a Tracking device as well.

Of course it serves as a tracking device. That's its primary purpose. To track stuff. Not people mind you but stuff. Of course it can be used to track people too if said people always carry one with them.

So now let's talk about tracking. Tracking isn't inherently bad. You mail a letter or package and it gets tracked. If it didn't your letter would NEVER get where it is going. Guess what RFID is used to track thousands of packages daily. It makes it easier and faster to deliver those packages. But hey we can't have that. Tracking is bad.

RFID is also used to track railroad cars, animals, movies (think netflix or redbox or any video rental store), cars, even money. None of this is bad. These things need to be tracked.

In the end all RFID is is a number. A reader sends a signal saying hey what's your number and the RFID replies back, my number is this. That's it. That's all there is to it. On some RFID chips that number can be changed and on most they can't. The RFID device itself tracks nothing. The reader doesn't say, hey RFID chip, where have you been and the chips reply back Oh I've been here and here and here. It can't do it. It's just a number. A very big number but a number. So to track the chip. The reader remembers. Hey RFID number 5 (Not really like I said BIG number) came by here at 3:30 on Monday October 29th 2013. And so that information get's tracked. And other readers in other places might remember that as well and things get tracked.

Ok why is this important. Because the RFID isn't required to make the tracking happen. It happens anyway. RFID makes it easier yes. But it's not necessary. The number can be printed on the item in the form of a barcode (which is how things use to be done and still are more predominately) The number can be printed in human readable form.

For that matter forget numbers. Each of us have a name. That name is used to identify us and if something can be identified it can be tracked. So while your banning RFID chips you better ban names too. The truth is every one of us is tracked every day in a multitude of ways. Some benign and some are invasive.

I agree. We are tracked every time we make a phone call. Every time we switch a stations on our direct TV or Cable Box. Every time we go through a toll booth. Every time we make any sort of purchase and especially every time we use the internet in any way including visiting this very web site and you choose to focus on RFID? You want to ban ALL uses of RFID to in the tracking of items because it might be used to track people? Even though the tracking of people isn't it's primary purpose, it's seldom used for that reason, and people are already tracked more effectively in a million other ways? It's just silly.
Debate Round No. 1
erindowning16

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Zenock

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Debate Round No. 4
erindowning16

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Zenock

Pro

Well looks like there is no further arguments. So I will let me first response stand.

It comes down to, some things need to be tracked. Banning RFID chips just because they MIGHT be used to track people when people are already tracked in a million other ways is overkill and not necessary. I support laws protecting people's privacy, but a complete ban on RFID chips just doesn't make sense.

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