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PinkSheep123
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Jacste
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Banning Russia from the 2018 Winter Olympics is the wrong decision

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Started: 2/5/2018 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 2 weeks ago Status: Debating Period
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PinkSheep123

Pro

Round One Acceptance
Round Two Arguments
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Round Four Counter Rebuttals and Conclusion

Good luck to whoever accepts
Jacste

Con

I hereby accept the challenge.
Debate Round No. 1
PinkSheep123

Pro

Hello and I thank Con for accepting

Banning all of Russia for doping was well, pretty dopey. Pun intended.

I would like to define “the wrong decision” as a decision that is ultimately unfair for the majority of the Russian population.

I must prove that it is fair to punish a country as a whole for a small group of bad people in that countrymust prove it is unfair to punish the majority of the Russian population and athletes for something a small group of athletes did.

Point One: The Majority of Russian Athletes did nothing wrong

  • 51 Russian athletes have been caught doping, creating this ban (npr.org)

  • However, there are 278 Russian olympic athletes who are clean and can go to the olympics (npr.org)

  • There is no evidence proving that the government supported the doping among the 51 athletes (NY times, Washington Post).

  • If a supermajority of russian athletes did nothing wrong, why should they be punished for the 51 who did?

  • While Russian athletes are allowed to compete under a neutral flag, that is not what the olympics are about.

  • Several former olympians, including 4 time 200 meter champion Andrey Fedoriv have been upset that the whole country is being punished for something a small percentage of athletes did. (dw.com)

  • Andrey Fedoriv said: “Competing in the Olympics is not about winning gold medals. It is winning honor and respect for your country” (sportsreference.com)

  • There's been no suggestion of any wrongdoing by reigning two-time world figure skating champion Evgenia Medvedeva

  • Medvedeva's teammate Alina Zagitova, also a medal contender for Pyeongchang, was just 11 during Sochi.

  • Sports like figure skating and curling have seen some accusations of wrongdoing by athletes around the time of the Sochi Olympics, but no cases have resulted in bans.


Point Two: Economically the wrong decision

  • Russia accounted for 23% of all olympic earnings in 2016, including watchers, and athletes. (Statista)

  • Russia currently provides 1.46 billion dollars to the olympics (Statista)

  • Russia is threatening a ban of the olympics if the ban is not repealed (Chigago Tribune, “Russia enraged” by Andrew Roth”

  • Therefore, the Winter Olympics would cost South Korea 1.46 billion dollars

  • Currently, the Winter Olympics have costed South Korea $11 billion dollars (pc2018.com)

  • With South Korea as a U.S ally, they need to make a profit from the Olympics in order to maintain a good economic standing. The estimated total profit of the Olympics without Russia is 10 billion dollars. Therefore, the Winter Olympics would not make a profit for South Korea and would put the government in even more debt, therefore making them less able to defend themselves against superpowers China and South Korea

  • That is just one year of the olympics

  • Russia has claimed they will boycott the next 10 olympic events if the ban is not repealed. (Russia Has Been Banned From the 2018 Winter Olympics. Here's What to Know by Joseph Hincks on TIME)

  • If we estimate the how much Russia gives the olympics every year, if this ban is not repealed, the olympics would lose $14 billion 600 million dollars. That is a kind of economic crash we cannot allow

  • Also, Russia had to pay $15 million to the IOC for something that only a few athletes did that was not government-sponsored. (CNN, by David Stokes)

Point Three: Other, worse offenses did not result in a blanket ban

  • “Allegations have been made about other countries,” Roger Pielke said. “WADA and the IAAF in particular face the criticism that they’re just responding to the media rather than facing the issue head-on. If Russia is penalized in some way, they would be on solid ground to say, `Why not treat every sporting nation similarly with the same approach?’ And they’d be right.”

  • American cyclist Lance Armstrong made the same argument about himself after getting a lifetime ban by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. He believed he was unfairly singled out as a high-profile target during an era when doping was rampant in cycling. In 2012, the USADA said Armstrong’s cycling team “ran the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen.”

  • He and other riders still were punished according to the evidence as individuals and were not subject to a blanket ban that could have punished innocent riders. The USADA stripped him of all seven of his victories in the Tour de France, and the IOC took back the bronze medal he won at the 2000 Summer Olympics. (USA today, Pros and Cons to banning Russia from olympics, by Brent S.”


Point Four: Other, more dangerous nations will be participating, so why can’t Russia?

  • what do you think is more serious, 51 athletes doping, or an entire country threatening to launch nukes at the U.S and defies the UN’s nuclear laws?

  • Obviously the second, yet North Korea will still be at the 2018 Winter Olympics (CNN)

  • Why should North Korea participate after breaking multiple laws that affect the safety of all citizens and Russia not?

  • Iran, one of the nations with the highest concentration of terrorists, is also competing in the Winter olympics. Iran is also working on a nuclear program and regularly burns U.S flags in the street. (The guardian)

  • Why should these two nations participate in the Olympics after doing things much more severe then what Russia did?

  • There were 278 athletes who did not cheat. (Statista) However, it is reported that 90% of the athletes in both those countries I mentioned doped, yet they are not punished at all! (USAToday)

Thank you, and I await Con's arguments
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Posted by DontArgueWithMe3333 2 weeks ago
DontArgueWithMe3333
I agree. We need to maintain the balance between nations, and just because the American people suspect Russia of hacking the election, does not mean that we should prohibit them from competing.
Posted by Nd2400 2 weeks ago
Nd2400
If you could provide some links toward argument i might be able to take it more serious. Links are important for the claims you are making...
Posted by Nd2400 2 weeks ago
Nd2400
Russia actually not really ban from the Winter Olympics only some athletes are. But most Russian athletes
Will play under the Olympics flag....
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