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Jer_G
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Mangani
Con (against)
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54 Points

Barack Obama will he become next president and is he the Anitchrist?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/29/2007 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Jer_G

Pro

I have had sevral discussions with Obama supporters, which my family is one! If you know anything about the anitchrist then you would know that Obama fits most if not all the fittings for this person! He is a man from the middle east, He was raised my Musslim radicals, he has been the only person not to "support" the United States by placing his hand over his heart durring the star spangle banner, he does not wear any patroitic atire on his person!
Now how can a person running for the United States presidentce, not support the United States? He also talkes about Great change that will happen when he gets into office, what does that mean? What kind of change? Good? Bad? He never really states what the change will be! Another factor this man is all about Peace... Peace in America, Peace in the Middle East... Just one more fact about the Antichrist! Now you tell me is that all just some big Coincidence, or in fact is the the Begining of the End??
Mangani

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"Barack Obama will he become next president and is he the Antichrist?"

Whether or not he will become the next President cannot be debated. Can he, should he, does he want to- those are things that can be debated.

Is he the AntiChrist? You have made comical points to that effect, but not any valid ones.

"He is a man from the middle east"

-He is not from the Middle East, he is from the US- he was born in Hawaii. Foreign born citizens cannot run for President. Even if he WAS from the Middle East, this is not a qualifier for being the antichrist, if you can even make arguments for the existence of one in the first place.

"He was raised my Muslim radicals"

-He lived in Hawaii until the age of 6, and lived there from the age of 10 until he graduated High School. He spent 5 years in Indonesia, and attended a Catholic school as well as a public school that was predominantly Muslim. Even if he WAS raised by radical Muslims, this neither is a qualifier or absolute evidence of him being an anti-christ, were you to argue that one even exists.

"he has been the only person not to "support" the United States by placing his hand over his heart during the star spangle banner"

-Even if this statement were true, it has nothing to do with being the anti-christ. BUT you don't "support" the US by placing your hand over your heart during the Star Spangled Banner, and not doing so is not a sign of a lack of support for the US.

"he does not wear any patriotic atire on his person"

-Take this into consideration when you don't vote for the model in the US flag bikini!

"Another factor this man is all about Peace... Peace in America, Peace in the Middle East... Just one more fact about the Antichrist!"

-How is this a "fact about the Antichrist"?
Debate Round No. 1
Jer_G

Pro

Jer_G forfeited this round.
Mangani

Con

Let's lay out some differences between the Antichrist and Barack Obama:

1) Antichrist= opposed to Christ; Barack Obama= Christian

2) The Antichrist denies Jesus is the Christ; the Antichrist denies the "Father" and the "Son"; the Antichrist denies Jesus come in the flesh; Barack Obama is a Christian who professes Jesus is the Christ (excerpt from "The Audacity of Hope"-I learned that those things I was too weak to accomplish myself, [Jesus] would accomplish with me if I placed my trust in [Jesus]). This is not the only time he has invoked Jesus Christ, spoken of his conversion to Christianity, or invoked the name of God.

3) The Antichrist is a political/religious leader. It is believed by Christians that the Antichrist will come when the Temple of Solomon is rebuilt, and he will reinstitute the sacrifice at the temple. He is believed to be a Jew because the only person who would be allowed to preside over this sacrifice is a Levite priest. This person will be believed by Jews to be the Messiah... Barack Obama is Kenyan/American. He is not Jewish, nor will the decendant of a Muslim be honored by anyone as the Messiah.

4) Even Muslims believe Jesus Christ will destroy the Antichrist. This is completely inconsistent with your assertion that Islam makes him the Antichrist.

I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point that Barack Obama cannot possibly be the Antichrist...
Debate Round No. 2
Jer_G

Pro

Jer_G forfeited this round.
Mangani

Con

Can't argue against points that weren't made... so vote Con unless you have an argument in support of Obama being the antichrist.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by artC 9 years ago
artC
He was raised by a non-religious mother and his father was a declared atheist.
Posted by Miserlou 9 years ago
Miserlou
Consider it a freebie win.
Posted by johnwooding1 9 years ago
johnwooding1
There is a reason Jer G forfeited so many rounds. Most likely because he knew he was wrong.
Posted by TeaandScarves 9 years ago
TeaandScarves
This is the most uneducated statement I have ever heard. I don't even know why you indulged him Mangani.
Posted by Miserlou 9 years ago
Miserlou
If his first name was Damien and his father was Gregory Peck you might have an argument there.
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