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MolecularBird06
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Battlefield Takes More Skill Than Halo

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demonlord343
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/25/2014 Category: Games
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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MolecularBird06

Pro

First round is acceptance
demonlord343

Con

Greetings! By skill level, you mean time spent to get to really good or..? Please elaborate on skill level.
Debate Round No. 1
MolecularBird06

Pro

Thanks for debating. What I mean for skill level is how hard is it to play as in mastering the gameplay, and how hard is it to beat other players in firefights.Like how Halo takes more skill than Call of Duty. Battlefield is the game that takes more skill. Mastering vehicle takes far more skill. For example a helicopter takes far more skill to pilot than it does in halo. The jets in battlefield are much harder to control than the Banshee in Halo. In Battlefield a person has to learn how to spot enemies out while they are trying to ambush you or trying to hid while you try ambushing. In Halo people can use cheap weapons like the Incineration Cannon and Binary Rifle, which are easy to kill with. In Battlefield a person doesn't get a triple kill from firing a rocket, a person who did that might kill one and then get killed by the other two while in Halo a rocket will take all of the players out. In Halo, players don't need to compensate for bullet drop while in Battlefield snipers do. Also the main Battlefield game mode, Conquest takes more skill to win than Halo's most played game mode Slayer/Big Team Battle. Both of Halo's game modes just require a team to kill as many opponents as they can, while in Battlefield a team still can win with less experienced players if it is well coordinated.
demonlord343

Con

I hear ya with the vehicles and that stuff. But I am not sure if you've fully mastered both. In halo, you must know how to go around those things. How to avoid them and actually rock the hell out of it. Battlefield is something that is actually easier to play when considering the shooter part. It is easier to get kills. And after playing halo for the longest time, i switched to battlefield and damn near instantly was pretty good at it. Although that isnt exactly fair because im just pretty damn good with shooters in general. And when considering game modes, you have to compare them via their similarities. Like i would have halo compared with a normal deathmatch round and a Big Team battle. It requires some strategy with battlefield because it is a massive effin map. Halo is much more confined, and that changes the gameplay style and strategy. The vehicles were never a key component in Halo. Just a small bonus. Most of halo is the fps. Once you master the fps, the game is yours. With battlefield, being a boss in the shooter portion was way to easy. Hell, after the first playthrough on Battlefield 3 i did it on its hardest mode, within the same two days. Halo was a different story. Halo 4 is friggin hard in the campaign. Much harder to get on its hardest difficulty. And the thing with a team can still win even if some of the other players suck? Same thing with halo, if you have good people.
Debate Round No. 2
MolecularBird06

Pro

Skills come in many different forms, all of halo's skill comes from fps, but Battlefield's skill comes from many things other than mastery of fps. To be an effective Battlefield player you can't just be a good infantry man, its like mastering how to walk in Halo, you have to know how to work with your team, spot your enemy from out of the back drop, learn to fight in vehicles, and how to use each class effectively A person can't snipe as an assault or rush in as a sniper. All you need to be good in Halo is to have good aim. Even though the people in Battlefield have less health than the Spartans in Halo, its harder to hit a solider in Battlefield than it is in Halo. The recoil on guns in Battlefield is crazy compared to that of Halo's. Usually Halo matches are dominated by the team that can outkill the enemy, but if one team in Battlefield has all the good player, the worse team can win if it can get the tank were it needs to, or the attack jet taking out enemy tanks. Also you didn't counter my point about cheap weapons in Halo.
demonlord343

Con

I never countered your argument against cheap weapons because there are. There are also very cheap combinations of weapons that people use. Like a plasma pistol and a gun with semi-automatic (DMR, lightrifle, carbine, or pistol. snipers are harder to use with this combo) or a three-round burst weapon (battle rifle and lightrifle). Very cheap.. but counterable. Usually mine is a suppressor and melee. or a sticky grenade. or just a grenade in general. I've had to play halo for many years in order to get this good at it. Battlefield doesn't take that long at all to get good at. I quickly was mastering a tank, a jeep, and most other vehicles. Yes, the vehicles are harder to use. But here is the kicker. Since they are so hard to use, most have a lot of room to get good in them. And that range of skill is huge. With halo, however, the vehicles are simple, and although they are very easy to learn, mastering them is very hard. Which matches everything in halo. Easy to learn, but hard to master. With Battlefield, however, is the opposite. Hard to learn, but easy to master.
Debate Round No. 3
MolecularBird06

Pro

I disagree with the idea that its is hard to master vehicles in Halo. A new player in a scorpion can take out a team of SR-130s easily. The problem is that most vehicles are either one hit, one kill, or will kill a player in a matter of a few seconds. A shot from a scorpion can take out an entire team, or splatter from a ghost. In battlefield a tank round can't take out 5 people in one hit, in fact the machine gun is more powerful than the tank gun when fighting infantry. Also the method for destroying vehicles is harder in Battlefield. In Halo a single hit from a spartan laser will destroy any vehicle, the most powerful rocket launcher in Battlefield can take a jeep out at the most in one hit. In Halo vehicle boarding is cheap, because once the grenade is in the vehicle pilot is doomed, also the vehicle pilot is helpless during the boarding. The Battlefield equivalent of the is Recon and their C4. The things is that the vehicle driver or gunner can run over the sniper, or can shoot the Recon player while he is trying to blow the C4. All in all Battlefield is the harder game.
demonlord343

Con

I disagree with that comparison. A recon and C4? On a helicopter? The equivalent of that is a sticky grenade on almost any vehicle in Halo. The vehicle boarding ability in Halo was actually added to help balance the odds against vehicle trolling once you get that good with them. Once you master a vehicle in Halo, you will get a very bountiful amount of kills in return. But figuring out these nooks and crannies in the game are not that easy. For example, the very popular vehicle, the Ghost, as seen throughout all of the Halo's, but only had the special boost from a Ghost after the first Halo, which was Halo: Combat Evolved, can be used to evade the grapple by what I call the "Overshoot" method. The "Overshoot" method is when in Halo, you try to come forward and kill him using the guns on the Ghost, but the opponent jumps into the air to try to perform the grapple. You then proceed to perform a quick boost and maneuver in a J-like fashion, whipping around to quickly kill your opponent. The hardest part with this trick is the whiplash. Many players can do this and overshoot it, thus that is why I dubbed it the "Overshoot" method. From the common whiplash, many players will not only expose them, but the opponent will likely have enough time to get their shields up again. You may also 4 out of 5 times boost into a corner. And that requires a different trick to get out of. With Battlefield, you dont usually need to fear the common ground soldier as much as you would in Halo. Sure, you can have a bunch of guys all have rocket launchers. But with most vehicles, a grenade doesnt do a lot of damage, where as in Halo, a grenade means instant doom. And their are a lot more guns in Halo that combat vehicles. A lot more than Battlefield. Thus, a player must learn ways to overcome all of them in order to be successful. You use the most powerful vehicle in Halo in your argument, the tank. Well, there are a few ways to overcome them that have been around since the first Halo. A sniper can take out a tank by shooting it in the treads. You can also take down the player in that little cockpit of it via sniper. A simple grenade if you manage. Your argument on how vehicles are harder to kill in Battlefield is not true at all. In Battlefield 3, the hardest Battlefield to kill a tank in, I found it quick and easy to do. Flank it, and wipe it out. They got even easier when they were like the Bad Company's. You remember those? You could blow everything up (I kinda loved it because of that). And finally, if your team in Halo gets killed by one shot from a Scorpion, video-tape it and send it to me, because getting a kill like that takes skill. In Battlefield, you can easily kill 4 players with one shot. Its too easy to do so. (4 people are the standard team in most of the Halo online game teams, whereas in Battlefield, you have a much larger amount of people in a server, and that is something that is easy to go around, since most of everyone likes to travel in a pack in that game. Not that its all necessarily bad. It distracts the vehicles for me).
To sum things up, Battlefield combat with vehicles is indeed a lil tricky. That takes some skill. Blowing away all the infantry in Halo is a little more challenging. Infantry vs. Infantry is harder in Halo. By a longshot. Infantry vs Vehicle is harder in Battlefield, because i will give my opponent credit for the grapple trick. Vehicle vs Infantry, however, must go to Halo. Vehicle vs Vehicle in Halo is harder. Extremely. Especially when about half of the vehicles can take each other out, with some ease if you have skill. The campaign is harder in Halo. And last but not least, if you want to count forge before Halo: Reach, then yes, you even needed skill there. And that is exclusive to Halo. So, when we look at the numbers of things, that is Halo 5: Battlefield 2. Overall, Halo by far trumps Battlefield.

This has been a very difficult debate, mostly because a lot of this can differ amongst players. Via experience, natural born talent, opinion on stratrgy, etc. So, in all fairness, please make sure you leave a comment with your vote, so we both can see what gives you troubles in both of the games, and may be able to offer tips on both. Thank you for having me! This has been an interesting and very fun debate to see these opinions! Ill cya in the next debate!
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by trpeckham 3 years ago
trpeckham
This is a rivalry I like! No butthurt fanboys like in COD. They both are great games each with a different and I feel equally fun gamestyle. Although I do think that BF, especially 3 and 4 require more skill to master.
Posted by ninjakiwi0717 3 years ago
ninjakiwi0717
well yea because battlefield came out after halo. therefore it has more controls and more vehicles. therefore it takes some time getting used to the controls. hence it takes more skill
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Actionsspeak
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Reasons for voting decision: Con won in the closing round.