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Big Bang Theory

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Started: 11/17/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Motherlover6969

Con

The big bang theory is impossible. something can not be created from nothing.
Husky115

Pro

While staying within simple terms, The Big Bang Theory does not state that the Universe was created from nothing, instead, the matter of the universe existed in a space so densely packed, it was the size of an atom, and The Big Bang was a rapid expansion of the matter within this small space.
Debate Round No. 1
Motherlover6969

Con

How was the universe created are you saying that there was just a universe, period? The universe had to have been made by something, sure you can argue that even with negative or "Antimatter" Something can be made because it is less than nothing therefore it is something, but i'd say that there has to be a push, something has to cause something else to exist, its kind of like making a fire, you have to put energy into it, you have to give it oxygen, a fire can not just exist without a force that creates it. Therefore a universe can not be made from nothing but instead something had to have "been" in order to have something. This is the same reason why you can not disprove a god or a supreme being that created the universe. Who created god? God was always there, just like we believe in gravity, we can not see it but we insist that its real because scientists studied this "Force". So why is it that we don't believe in god? People study this unseen force, this supreme being, and can prove by disproving, meaning they prove that god is real by stating that something did not get created by nothing and the mere existence of this earth, of this universe, is the cause of a hierarchy, someone higher up, a supreme being who gave that little push in order to create everything. In the beginning it was god, and god was that push that started everything.
Husky115

Pro

If I read your argument correctly, you are stating that the universe has always been, and if you believe that is true, where and when did it start, also there is undeniable evidence that galaxies are moving away from a central point, which would imply that they all originated from that point, so how can you explain this phenomenon?
Debate Round No. 2
Motherlover6969

Con

No you are not reading it correctly i said the universe has not been around sense second 1, because it would be impossible to create something out of nothing. There had to have been a push in order to make something because something can not be made from nothing. They all originated from a point that god created them all in. The universe is not moving but instead it is growing, this is because it has the necessary energy to make something because the universe now has something. God created the universe and put energy in it, light, dark, lightning, wind, Gravity, matter, antimatter. Therefore giving it the necessary energy to expand the universe. how do these galaxies continue forming stars at such a fast clip? Galaxies should quickly deplete their reservoirs of gas as they create new stars and so must somehow continuously replenish those reservoirs with fresh gas to keep the star formation going. "During the early universe, we expected cosmic inflation " this is a rapid expansion of the universe right after the big bang" "This expansion causes lots of stuff to shake around, and if we shake it too much, we could go into this new energy space, which could cause the universe to collapse." This might not seem like to much when it comes down to it but in fact this was a study by one of the most skilled scientists in the world Robert Hogan, you'v probably never heard of this nor him because he pointed out that in fact the big bang is not only impossible because you can not have something out of nothing but also because if there was such a rapid growth of these "small particles" than the universe would shake so much that it would literally collapse creating a new energy, that we have NEVER even seen or heard of.
Husky115

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
Motherlover6969

Con

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Husky115

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
Motherlover6969

Con

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Husky115

Pro

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Deb-8-A-Bull 1 year ago
Deb-8-A-Bull
It seems you guys have given up . And it has to be only one of 2 things . And now you weigh up . Was it god , or evelotion. And then if you belive in god or not . rules out the other . And on this . Your studies start. Come on guys . So for your homework this week . I want 2 more real feeling logical , far fetched ways this all began. . The best response will win tuckshop for the day. Amuse me . OK class dismissed.
Posted by SgtFluffypuss 1 year ago
SgtFluffypuss
You say that something can not be created by nothing. Yet, you say God has always been here. Which means before him, there was nothing. And if there were nothing before God, and something can not be created by nothing, God must be nothing. And if God is nothing he could not create the Universe because as you said, something can not be created by nothing.
Posted by Motherlover6969 1 year ago
Motherlover6969
Govitz147 While that is great and all, it is proven that the universe would shake so much from the rapid expansion of any kind of big bang that it would collapse and create a "new energy" space, it has been proven by scientists who study the universe and space.
Posted by govitz147 1 year ago
govitz147
Well, scientists believe the universe expands and contracts. Right now, it is expanding due to a loss of gravity and a increase in thermal expansion. Soon, Gravity will become the dominant force and expansion will stop. Then, it will reverse and start contracting into what is called the "Big Crunch". This densely packs the universe into the size of an atom, and of course, another big bang will occur. Scientists believe that this has happened over and over again.
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