The Instigator
benjiswak
Con (against)
Losing
23 Points
The Contender
Kleptin
Pro (for)
Winning
76 Points

Big Bang is a big phoney

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/22/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 2,240 times Debate No: 3753
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benjiswak

Con

The matter of the universe spines in a circle clock wise the faster and faster it goes the bang the planets spin clock wise this is called Conservation of Angular Momentum but some planets spin backwards Venus and Uranus.
Kleptin

Pro

I was challenged to this debate, probably a bit after I labeled all creationist arguments as not worth the digital space on the internet. I was about to shoot this debate down but I think I'll actually take it.

I'm not going to put a lot of effort into this. Here, have a link. It's the EXACT answer to your Kent Hovind brand argument-in-a-can.

http://www.talkorigins.org...

Above is a complete disproof. I will now explain the argument provided in the link.

1a. Physics can't really apply in a black and white manner here. Why? because the big bang is an expansion of space, not a giant explosion where there is a calculatable result

1b. Another argument is not just the spin of planets, but the spin of galaxies. Galaxies formed *after* the big bang when things started to settle down, hence, we can expect random spins.

1c. Conservation of angular momentum does not mean all things have to spin the same way. If two spinning things run into each other, they may start spinning in opposite directions. Backwards spinning planets can thus be accounted for given the size of the universe.

2. The author argues that even if the big bang were just an explosion, random spins of planets are to be expected because the pieces fly out spinning in different directions.

A little addendum:

Why would God make two planets spin differently from the others? For giggles?
Debate Round No. 1
benjiswak

Con

benjiswak forfeited this round.
Kleptin

Pro

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Debate Round No. 2
benjiswak

Con

benjiswak forfeited this round.
Kleptin

Pro

...Take one down, put one back up, ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall...
Ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall, ninety-nine bottles of beer...
Take one down, put one back up, ninety-nine bottles of beer on the wall...
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by beem0r 8 years ago
beem0r
Not that vote counts matter, of course.
Posted by Kleptin 8 years ago
Kleptin
It's called "Vote bombing". It is an act of terrorism by Josh and those like him who hate the free exchange of ideas.
Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
wjmelements
Why does the instigator have any points at all?
Posted by JBlake 8 years ago
JBlake
All of my vote goes to Pro as well. I don't think an explanation is necessary.
Posted by LR4N6FTW4EVA 8 years ago
LR4N6FTW4EVA
Cleaning out Kleptin...
All my points go to Kleptin.
Conduct: benjisak forfeited two rounds. That is bad show, bad show.
Spelling: I hate run-ons!!!
Arguments: Some planets don't spin clockwise isn't an argument, sorry.
Sources: talkorigins is much more reliable than an unsourced claim.
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
Woops, didn't link properly:

http://anime6.org...
http://anime-media.com...
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
They sub the episodes for season 2 merely a day after they come out.

Currently, the four episodes for season 2 have subbed and uploaded on both of the following two websites.

www.anime-media.com
www.anime6.org
Posted by GaryBacon 9 years ago
GaryBacon
I see your point L-M. If one were to vote, it does make sense to vote PRO due to the fact that two rounds were forfeited by CON. I did not vote, but should the votes become closer, I will vote PRO since he clearly deserves to win.
Posted by Kleptin 9 years ago
Kleptin
Wow. I didn't even see that LM. You would think that the bright red and green would catch my attention x.x

Anyway, yes, Code Geass was awesome, and I've been waiting a LOOOONG time for the second season to air. I don't think it's been subbed yet even though it's showing in Japan.
Posted by manipulativethief 9 years ago
manipulativethief
poor con. we should give him another chance. oh-well. i guess pro should win.....but i feel so bad for con that im voting for him. Go benjiswak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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