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niahfaye
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jo154676
Con (against)

Black Lives Matter Movement has a Legitimate Purpose

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Started: 1/2/2017 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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niahfaye

Pro

All lives matter, more specifically, the lives of every human entity has purpose and equal rights under our nation's laws and beliefs. Correct? If all lives matter, then can someone please justify the unnecessary beatings from Caucasian cops being forcefully given to a large handful of colored individuals of a range of ages and gender. These beatings portrayed themselves in a pattern that many identified and became upset with. What happened to all lives matter? It wasn't there, it was being neglected in it's entirety, and so the colored community, specifically the black community, decided to begin a movement of their own. Black lives matter was not a movement created to send the message that black lives deserve a higher privilege over others, or that black lives should be identified separately, but rather that they should be noticed as human beings, and they should actually be included in the all lives matter movement. Being able to drink from the same fountain isn't going to satisfy us in the 21st century. We have come much farther than that, and I, and everyone involved in the movement, believe it is time to start treating us JUST like everyone else. Being black is not a religion, or a character trait, a feeling, or a choice. Being black is something you're born as. It is a race. Being white is another example of a race, obviously. So, if a white person is treated humanely during an interaction or altercation with a police officer, then why are a majority of black individuals treated differently? ALL LIVES MATTER, but I have presented numerous reasons as to why Black Lives Matter is still a legitimate movement.
jo154676

Con

For it to be a legitmate cause it has to have some sort of opposition. Almost nobody says that black lives do not matter, and if you did the research then you would know that 50% of cop shootings were white and 26% were black. Another statistic a cop is 18.5 times more likely to be shot than an unarmed black man is to be shot by a cop. (1)

Now we address your other issue of people not treating black people like humans, when in the last 5-10 years has that happened?

1. (http://www.dailywire.com...)
Debate Round No. 1
niahfaye

Pro

In 2012 more whites were killed by police than blacks, but in late 2015 and much of 2016, there was tension between the black community and policemen due to unnecessary beatings. Not shootings, but beatings. Police officers were physically abusing, and occasionally shooting blacks out of "fear" even when the suspect was proved to be unarmed. Blacks were also being harassed for simply looking suspect even when proved to be going about their daily lives. Being abused for looking suspect is not how you treat a living being. I'm not sure what world you live in, but there are many races and cultures that struggle each day for basic privileges or humane treatment. Just because you have not witnessed the inhumane beatings, the unnecessary shootings, the still-present racism and discrimination, or any other very real case against blacks and colors, doesn't mean they don't exist. I have seen kids at local schools be teased STILL because of their skin color, bullied on the Internet, and excluded from activities due to their skin color. I have seen numerous videos of whites calling out a colored person for the dumbest things and screaming at them telling them to return to their home country. I'm not even 50% black, but I've had someone tell me to go back to Africa. Hilarious how discriminative and ignorant these people can be.
jo154676

Con

First of all you have no numbers or proof to back any of your statements

There was tension because the media portayed every black kid shot by police as a brutal evil cop killing an innocent black teenager that did nothing wrong but more often than not this is not the case. And there were a few cases where the cop was wrong but that happens in all communities. Furthermore we can use some numbers here to say whether or not this is important. Lets say that there is one innocent black person killed every 2 weeks by police, that is 26 per year. 100 people are killed by lightning each year do we need a movement for that?

Police are going to target african americans more because they commit more crimes.
"In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender"s race was "unknown" in 29.1 per cent of cases.
What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data " 2011 to 2013 " 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black." (1)
While these numbers may seem close they should be nowhere near each other as african americans take up 13% of the population as opposed white which take up 63%. So whites have 5 times the population and commit less crimes, therefore there is no way you can argue that police shouldn't be more suspicious of african americans.

"There are many races and cultures that struggle everyday for basic privileges."
Let's talk privileges, do whites get the advantage of getting hundreds of points on their sat just for being white? No that is black people (2)
Also pro if you could do me a favor and tell me what rights african americans are being refused that would be fantastic.

1. (http://www.dailywire.com...)
2. (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com...)
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