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patthebaker
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chevy10294
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10 Points

Border Fence

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/11/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 948 times Debate No: 4386
Debate Rounds (3)
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patthebaker

Con

I think building A fence along the US-Mexico border would be a waste of money and not hinder illegal immigration
chevy10294

Pro

Hello

"I think building A fence along the US-Mexico border would be a waste of money"

How would it be a waste of money? This is a very generalized statement, that I can't reboot. Please add more specifics and facts before giving an argument like this.

".. not hinder illegal immigration"

Once again how wont it "hinder illegal immigration? If we were to have the double border fence, the immigrants would have to get over 2 fences and numerous Border PAtrolmen and surveillance's cameras. There is always the possibility that the next illegal immigrant will be a terrorist.
Debate Round No. 1
patthebaker

Con

It will be a waste of money because It will cost billions to build and keep up thats why it would be a waste of money and wont do anything more than be a minor inconvenience.
First i would like to show you a video this video is a episode of Penn and Tellers Emmy award winning show Bull$hit It is a three part video and please watch them all. Anyhow during the video They have illegal immigrants Build a fence just like the proposed double fence on the US Mexico border, They use Three methods under over and threw all got to the other side in relatively few minutes. The easiest way to get into america is by legal visa and just overstay your welcome much like the terrorist's during the 9/11 attacks. And answer me this. How many terrorists known to attack the USA has crossed the Us-mexico border illegaly. If security is increased to the south you would need another longer fence on the US Canadian Border which is the longest border between any two countries. Also by hinder is make a signifigant difference in not One or two illegals.
chevy10294

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chevy10294 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
patthebaker

Con

My opponent has logged on multiple times during which his argument was due which leads to one of two thing he is doing.
1. he concedes his argument and wont bother in posting.
2. he is waiting to rebuttal so that he has the last word in this argument and I have no more chances to post my argument.
chevy10294

Pro

chevy10294 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bullslapper 8 years ago
bullslapper
I think building a shipping canal as a fence along the border would be a great ideal.
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