Both Christanity and Islam encourage excessive cruelty to animals.
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More and more I am seeing little use for either of these religions in modern day. Perhaps in a past era these ideas were necessary to survive. Yet, with no evidence of God I am beginning to question a religion who claims a supreme being created these morals, yet is very cruel to animals.
I think it is well known about the Christian capitalistic factory farms. The old testament Kosher slaughtering of animals. That Christians can morally use animals for food, clothing, and experimentation.
Yet, what about the newcomer to the western world? Is Islam any better? No, in many ways Islam is just as bad if not worse.
I. Ritual slaughter
"Muslims are only allowed to eat meat that has been killed according to Sharia law. This method of killing is often attacked by animal rights activists as barbaric blood-thirsty ritual slaughter." 
II. Animal sacrifices
That's right, I think this would be hard for a western to swallow, Muslims perform animal sacrifices.
"This year, Eid al-Adha will occur around November 16 (the precise date will be determined by lunar observations). At Eid, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of sheep and goats will be sacrificed to celebrate the end of the annual pilgrimage to Mecca, making the timing of the article particularly significant." 
III. Discrimination against dogs.
"Muslim countries, in particular, are rife with unimaginable cruelty toward animals. Walid Shoebat has been chronicling horrific cases of Muslim animal abuse. Below are two recent examples:
#1: In Iran, government gets rid of stray dogs by injecting them with acid. Acid is chosen because it is the least expensive poison, but the method is cruel because it consigns the dog to a painful and slow death, as the acid slowly corrodes the dog’s guts." 
This is heart breaking for anyone who loves animals. I find it disturbing that these two religions have so many followers in this modern world. Thanks for reading.
"He who takes pity even on a sparrow and spares its life, God will be merciful to him on the Day of Judgement."
" The Qur"an
"A good deed done to an animal is as meritorious as a good deed done to a human being, while an act of cruelty to an animal is as bad as an act of cruelty to a human being."
" The Prophet Muhammad: Hadith
Same thing for Christianity, I cant find any quotes telling you to kill animals with no religious purpose. So for both religions (Keep in mind im anti islam), the mindless cruelty towards animals is not justified by either holy book.
However, if you it is taken into context about killing an animal just for a sacrifice, I get where you're coming from.
Therefore, we must judge how a religion treats animals based upon the actions of its followers. As already seen in r1, Christians an Muslims tend to treat animals horribly. Note this same train of thought could be made for violence.
That religion x states in part A of its religious texts peace and part B war. That means a person following the religion will pick whatever benefits him/her the most.
Finally, to really determine how a religion treats animals, we must compare the actions of followers of various religions. That way we can see how they stack up. Overall, Christianity and Islam treat animals much worse than Hinduism and Buddhism. Also, note many animal rights activist gravitate towards atheism, Hinduism and Buddhism. Which also shows that these religions have more respect for animals.
Thanks for debating.
"or any real life cases about the topic related to Christianity."
I've talked about factory farming in r1. It is well known that Christianity is around 70% in the USA and factory farming is rampant the USA. 
99% of animals are raised on factory farms in the USA.  The majority of USA citizens are Christian. 99% of animals raised in the USA are from factory farms. Factory farming is infamous for its terrible cruelty. Therefore there is a strong positive relationship between Christianity and factory farming. I can only come to the conclusion that Christianity causes animal cruelty.
As for other religions, this may also be true, but is a red herring. If religion x causes cruelty to animals, this won't change the fact that Christianity causes cruelty to animals.
As for judging a religion by its religious texts, I've already gone over this in this debate any many others. Religious texts have many contradictory passages. Since people are self motivated they often select the passage that benefits them the most, using conformation bias to ignore the contradictory passage.
"Gee, God says animals don't have souls, gave us souls, gave us dominion over animals, Jesus ate fish, and Jesus said it was moral to eat meat." Completely overlooking the anti-cruelty passages. If I had to point to one event that turned me from a Christian to an agnostic it is this.
Nevermind that the body is a temple of the holy spirit. That if you defile your body God will destroy you. Oh no, Jesus ate one fish so then we can rationalize every single misdeed we perform to animals based upon this.
I just found it was impossible to convince Christians to turn vegetarian. I honestly lost my faith arguing vegan issues with Christians on this debate site. I couldn't help but see my opponent's as heartless, ruthless, merciless, self interested, ignorant, self destructive, and just plain old evil. Thanks for debating.
'Both Christianity and Islam encourage excessive cruelty to animals' means that the ideology that the person follows encourages the follower to torture animals, and be excessively cruel towards them. Thus far, all you've proven is how many farms are owned by Christians / Muslims, and statistics shown about how much meat is consumed by people who follow Christianity / Islam. You haven't proven how each ideology promotes excessive amounts of cruelty to animals, you've only shown how much meat is eaten and how many farms are owned by people who follow each religion. There has been no evidence about the Bible or the Quran, no criticism of the ideology, and nothing about excessive cruelty. You've only criticized the people, of the religion and not the religion itself. Needless to say, your statements have only been promoting veganism, and only proves about the excessive amount of meat eaten, which is an entirely different topic from this, and not a single word about how each religion promotes animal cruelty.
Christians work in factories + Factories are cruel to animals = Christianity promotes cruelty. This is your logic and reasoning behind it as far as I can tell, which only adresses the people, but not the ideology.
You also mentioned how the factory farming industry is cruel. Yet, this doesn't equate at all to how Christianity or Islam promotes excessive cruelty towards animals, and have strayed completely off topic. You said that referring to the text for each religion would result in bias. That means that you haven't argued the topic AT ALL. For the part about turning Christians into vegetarians / vegans, you're doing nothing more than forcing your own ideals onto other people, which obviously doesn't work, and losing your faith over such a thing. Like how people complain about Christians shoving Christianity down their throats, you have been doing the same with veganism. In summary, throughout this entire debate, you haven't argued the point at all. I would be willing to continue this, but if we are going to, please change the title to something more appropriate and fitting for what you've argued thus far.
Thanks for debating.
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Vote Placed by Peepette 2 months ago
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