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Caitlyn Jenner's gender change

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Started: 10/28/2015 Category: People
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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am_archer

Pro

Society condones Caitlyn Jenner for becoming a woman but I say that she did nothing wrong in changing her name and gender. In this argument, I will refer to Caitlyn Jenner as 'he' when speaking of her in the past tense (as Bruce Jenner) and as 'she' when speaking of her in the present tense. Caitlyn Jenner isn't to be looked down upon because there are reasons for her decision. The first reason is that he had a brain tumor. Reason two is because she felt like it was the will of God. The third reason was because he was pressured by the media and the last reason is because his divorce led him to change his gender.
CMR190

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Bruce will always be Bruce, whether or not he has some calling from god or because he decided to just magically change his gender because he always thought of himself as female. I doubt he had such feelings when he was a gold medal Olympian in the 1980's and on top of the world. However, his DNA is male, and no matter the amount of surgery will change that. Tumors are an unfortunate thing, however, it isn't a logical excuse to go and try to change your gender. The same could be said under the assumption he did this because of his divorce. Also a sad event, but like most Kardashian's, you could think this was merely done for attention. He will always
Debate Round No. 1
am_archer

Pro

First off, despite how society looks at Caitlyn, she identifies as a Christian. If she felt it was God's will, she was doing what she thought God wanted. We have no right to say what is and what isn't God's will for other people. We may know what God's will is for ourselves but we can't decide that for other people. Second, after her gender change, Caitlyn was interviewed by multiple people. One of the things she said about her change was that she had felt that way ever since she was little (https://www.bostonglobe.com...). If she felt that way ever since she was little, this includes when he was a gold medal Olympian. Thirdly, Bruce Jenner was involved in a four car fatal car accident on February 7, 2015 in which one person was killed (http://www.cnn.com...). Since this crash was serious enough to kill one person, it also could have resulted in Bruce Jenner getting a brain tumor. Bruce Jenner went to the doctor and had a MRI and the doctor suggested that he had a brain tumor but the results were inconclusive, meaning that the Kardashian family could be keeping it from the media. Lastly, Bruce Jenner was married three times. His last marriage, he was married to Kris Jenner, and they were married for 22 years. Not long after his divorceto Kris, he decided to change his gender. His divorce to his wife of 22 years could have caused him to go into depression. Different people cope with depression differently. Bruce Jenner was coping with his depression by changing his gender.
CMR190

Con

I see I was proven wrong on a couple arguments, I will accept that. However, no matter Bruce has always felt and no matter how much the media and society pushes the change, the DNA will always say that he is and always will be a male. I just do not see what else there is to debate about.
Debate Round No. 2
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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Dkice4 1 year ago
Dkice4
Bruce Jenner has an XY chromosome pair, no manner of surgery can change that.
Posted by Jonbonbon 1 year ago
Jonbonbon
Lol you know that "condone" means to support right? Your first sentence says that society supports Kaitlyn Jenner, but you don't think there was anything wrong with it.
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