The Instigator
Keithinator
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jennie_bebe
Con (against)
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Calling something gay, when trying to say that it is stupid or bad is illogical.

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Started: 1/5/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Keithinator

Pro

It is becoming a common thing to hear somebody calling something gay when they are trying to express that that thing is stupid or dumb. Is it homosexual? Is it happy? Under rare circumstances will these definitions apply.
jennie_bebe

Con

The English language is constantly evolving. Using gay as an adjective to describe something that is "stupid" or "dumb" has become common and is understood by most people. Although it is clearly not politically correct, that is for another debate. Just because the use of the word gay has, shall I say "grown", that does not make it illogical by any means.
Debate Round No. 1
Keithinator

Pro

When this phrase was first used for an irrelivant thing it would have been illogical, same for the second, and so on until somewhere along the line it became logical that said thing was gay? An innaniment object cannot be gay in any sense of the word. So how could it have logically made the leap from being illogically acceptable to logically acceptable in conversation.
jennie_bebe

Con

What makes it "logically acceptable"? If someone states that something is "gay", nearly everyone would comprehend that as meaning something similar to "stupid". There are not many people who would actually think: "gay?, hm, what does that word mean?" It is not a matter of original intent in this case, but a matter of its currently understood use.
Debate Round No. 2
Keithinator

Pro

It seems to me like the topic for this debat was too broad because we are both arguing different points. You are arguing that it is not illogical as a slang term. I am trying to say that with literal definition gay is not logical because it is not relevant by means of any dictionary to call something stupid using the word gay. Although i feel that gay will eventually come up in some dictionaries in the future I find that it is with the literal definition of gay and illogical, using gay is illogical to substitute stupid.

Illogical
-adjective
1. lacking in correct logical relation
2. lacking orderly continuity

Gay
–adjective
1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2. bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
3. given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
4. licentious; dissipated; wanton: The baron is a gay old rogue with an eye for the ladies.
5. homosexual.
6. of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization.

Stupid
–adjective
1. lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2. characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3. tediously dull, esp. due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4. annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5. in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.

There is no overlap of the definitions of the two words stupid and gay and when you look at the definition of illogical it states "lacking in correct logical relation" without the relation it does not have logic=illogical
jennie_bebe

Con

Agreed that the topic is too broad. I rest my case that just because this particular use of the word gay is not in the dictionary does not make it illogical. Although, I too believe that it will soon be in the dictionary with a similar definition to "stupid".
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Keithinator 9 years ago
Keithinator
When you say that does not make it illogical you should probably elaborate because you need to disprove the point rather than just announce that you are "right."
Posted by snoboguy1230 9 years ago
snoboguy1230
oooooohhhh hhhhooo hhhhhhoooo
Posted by Logical-Master 9 years ago
Logical-Master
Keithinator killed his own argument in round 3.
Posted by Solarman1969 9 years ago
Solarman1969
Its kind of sad that the homosexuals hijacked this word for happy

oh well
Posted by Keithinator 9 years ago
Keithinator
I am not trying to be a prick who is being literal about everything, I made this debat because I dislike the use of the word gay and I thought that maybe pointing this out would get people to think about what they say. You are also reffering to a very established phrase where as this one is young and although ill admit it does have potential to become a real definition i dont find anything wrong with debating it.
Posted by U.S_Patriot 9 years ago
U.S_Patriot
Keithinator's argument for the lose. Honestly, to criticize an expression like that would be waging war on all other expressions of the same type. When we say "What a beautiful sunrise", do we really mean the sun is rising? Does someone else reply to the statement by saying "Hmm, that doesn't seem right. The Earth is simply revolving around the earth causing the Sun to come into our direct view. That statement isn't correct or logical by our standards".

Just because you don't agree with it does not make it illogical.
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