Can comic book characters be bible characters reincarnated?
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Why now? Why wait 2000yrs just to screw with us through comic books recycling biblical heroes? To validate them in a defiant society that worships gods, yet in a compartmentalized manner, namely, fake gods that are recognized for what they are and nothing more, challenging the idea whether it's violating the first two Commandments.
Let's start with. . . God and the Incredible Hulk. Gamma anger caused by radioactive sin proximity. Bruce Banner would be Jesus, as his anger was directly linked to God and blasphemy. Tantrums between Hulk and the Old Testament are not all that dissimilar. God comes off as the Antichrist, while Bruce Banner is always trying to contain the Hulk; like Jesus afraid of being crucified and looking for another way out. Both Jesus and Bruce Banner always staying calm and patient despite those who would attempt to agitate him deliberately. Hulk does eventually get shipped off by fellow Jewish heroes to a distant planet, like Jesus' Ascension to Heaven; whereas Hulk is eventually treated like a gladiator on the planet he crash-lands on, Jesus' Godhood is currently being fought for by new comrades, whatever you want to call them. Both Hulk and God were seen as unconformable monsters, but in a different environment, they are seen as noble warriors, fighting for strangers despite being in survival mode. Their return is not expected, despite that it is should be.
Oh, and to point out your silliness, let me compare biblical characters to pokemon. Ash Ketchum holds control over other organisms that are coerced in to performing nearly all the tasks Ash wants them to perform. This is a form of slavery. Biblical Egyptians held slaves. Ash is one of the pharaohs of Egypt. Ash's friends also are slave owners. They are the wealthy Egyptian masters. Pikachu is Joseph.. it is one of the slaves. The all-powerful, psychic pokemons such as Mewtwo and Mew represent God. Slowking foretells the future, he is Jesus. Et cetera, et cetera..
"God and the Incredible Hulk. Both Hulk and God were seen as unconformable monsters, but in a different environment, they are seen as noble warriors, fighting for strangers despite being in survival mode."
I have never seen god referenced as a monster or a warrior before today. This is a self-made correlation/claim based on an false, imaginary common view.
Here is are the categorical claims you've made for several biblical characters that rarely, if at all, appears elsewhere:
1. God comes off as the Antichrist *really? REALLY?*
2. Bruce Banner is always trying to contain the Hulk; like Jesus afraid of being crucified and looking for another way out
*Jesus feared crucification? I don't think so. :)*
3. Hulk does eventually get shipped off by fellow Jewish heroes to a distant planet, like Jesus' Ascension to Heaven
*I go to Taiwan, my native home, like Jesus.. this correlation works with almost every single individual in the world*
4.Tantrums between Hulk and the Old Testament are not all that dissimilar. *Prove it*
I think that's enough for you to deal with. Good luck.
Since you opened the door to biblical pokemon, I prefer Noah's Ark being one large pokeball, and Noah's catchphrase/mission being "Gotta Catch 'Em All! There's a photo circulating this idea that shares my sentiments on the internet. I'm borrowing the large pokeball idea, but the rest is mine, despite anyone inconveniently thinking it up as well.
How is God not referenced as a monster? Never talked to a disillusioned atheist? As for God as a warrior, he does quite the smiting in his OT days, but that isn't as relevant as the New Testament depictions, like Revelation, where he takes the fun out of being the Antichrist.
If Jesus didn't fear the crucifiction, he feared being abandoned by God on the cross and whatever that process entailed.
About Hulk and Jesus' involuntary (Jesus' will was to do his Father's, not his own) departure from Earth are co-unique because of similar circumstances: the monster was uncontainable. Hulk's uncontainability is obvious, Jesus' is mysterious.
The tantrums involve rampaging through 'innocent' people and guilty alike. Innocent by atheistic standards. Hulk's anger is occasionally hyper-rational, almost miraculously by protecting the damsel or hostage, etc. from the bad guys. The 'good' guys think he's bad (God/Hulk); the 'bad' guys KNOW he's good; that's obviously from an atheistic perspective.
God is a monster? As with all your other unusual analogies that you state as fact, show me evidence, sited (and maybe quoted) from a legitimate source (preferably biblical, but maybe some biblical commentaries from credible scholars)
You also seem to have missed my point about Pokemon. I literally asked my sister to name a random cartoon for me to make comparisons. The point is, you can compare ANYTHING to ANYTHING based on ANY similarity at all. This is what you are doing and this is what I am pointing out explicitly here and implicitly through my examples written above. I apologize for my rude bluntness, but you must be slow-witted to not be able to catch this point and 'refute' my round without actually addressing the points I've made.
Cheeseburgers are loved by many. Jesus is loved by many, according to church teachings. Jesus Christ is an eggroll.
*hint* Attack my main points/refutations. Do not ramble on with your original argument that I've already effectively refuted.
Wolverine.....Jesus' Debating Ability
ADAMantium clause: unbreakable conscience, shameless
Memory Loss: Forgets about Christianity post-rapture
Prof. Xavier....Prophet Jesus
X-Men Founder: Church Founder
Not the Leader, but Founder: Cyclops/Pope Leader
Cerebro: Locate own kind
School: Sunday School
Wheelchair: Jesus is Head of the Church Body, Impotent
Captain America....SuperChristian Jesus (Redundant? Only Jesus is perfectly Christlike)
Frozen In Ice: Jesus is serenely stuck in Heaven since the Ascension
Vibranium Shield: Absorb/Deflect Critical vibes with irony
Serum Transforms Puny >> Super: Humble Baptism
I don't have to worry about the math fallacies since that's not my ambition. My goal is to use fiction to exorcise the 'fiction' out of the Bible. How? Juxtaposing two fictional subjects, and if examining them leads to suspicion of foul play, the coincidence is to be a confirmation as to whether fraudulence is present. By the low expectation of success, I had the element of surprise. If only I can gain access to the tool of shock and awe. You could never end with your analogies with random subjects; I have my limits. Mine are less arbitrary.
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As for God being a monster, these scholars precede my accusation.
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Batcave Mt. Sinai
Utility Belt...Moral Gadgetry
Prince of Gotham/Egypt
Runaway for Training
The parallel unison of cooperation within the comic book universe and biblical network of intertwinement are meant to inspire an attempt to adapt to the evolving culture that prefers fake gods over real ones. Combining them may confuse initially, but when they do become initiated, the fear of abnormal coincidence should begin to subside.
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