Can we know anything for certain?
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Of course i am not sold on the con argument, i am just defending it for the sake of debate, if there is any point in debating at all.
I am new to this site, so if anyone wants to join the debate, be my guest.
i know you cant close your eyes and keep reading until the end of this sentence, unless you have transparent eyes lids or something
Modern science doesnt even claim anymore to be a method of getting absolute truths, they always admit the possibility of their theories being falsifiable (however excruciatingly unlikely that may be). So you can rule science ( and every inductive method that comes with it) out in the search for abbsolute truths.
In theory, you are left with deductive reasoning, as in this example:
(If A then B) and
(If B then C) therefore
A then C
But my question is, If you were to doubt the laws of logic, the very same laws you must assume axiomatically to, well, prove the truthfulness of anything logically, is there anything else left besides logic to determine the truth? Faith? I doubt it. But you are already resting your faith in the axioms of logic.
So, since we cant logically prove the validity of the rules of logic, what can we say is true or not? All we have got left is uncertainty, assumptions, based on other assumptions, based on logic, which we assume to be true by definition.
I must say though, if we were to throw logic out of the window, everything becomes meaningless, including this very same debate. Is there a god? Yes and know, since contradiction is allowed without logic, so can exist and not exist at the same time. Am i lying or telling the truth? Both. None. What gives.
That was the core of my argument, the core of this debate. To prove that without logic everything is meaningless. Even god.
Best wishes. JBL
logic is absolute, no doubt or faith involved
logic is not an assumption
did you eat a rocket launcher this morning? are you unsure if you are lying if you say thats not the case, you know unless you did eat a rocket launcher.. truth is memory
logic is cause and effect
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