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Can words be a defense in a heat of passion killing?

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Started: 11/18/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Rr

Con

Suppose my wife tells me she cheated on me, so, without any control, beat her to death with a baseball bat. I am claiming that I killed my wife because her words caused a heat of passion killing. Should this argument be applicable in court?
Ore_Ele

Pro

Since my opponent is "con" and I am "pro," I will be taking the position that the answer to the question is "yes."

Can words be a defense in a heat of passion killing?

Yes, anything can be a defense. The resolution (nor anything in my opponent's argument) implied that the defense be a successful defense, but merely a defense. However, words can also have a significant effect on the punishment that one receives.

Lets consider two examples.

1) Your wife tells you that she's been sleeping with fat chicks, and they are better lovers than you and your deedle nick [1]. In a fit of anger, jealousy, and a lot of shame, you beat her to death with a baseball bat.

2) For no reason at all, in a fit of anger, jealousy, and a lot of shame, you beat your wife to death with a baseball bat [2].

The only difference between the two examples are "words" (as explained in my opponent's post). However, the differences of these words has different implications about why you committed the murder, and what the likelyhood of repeat offenses would be. In the first case, it is apparent that all you need to make sure you don't have a repeat crime, is penis enhancement surgery [3] and some love making leasons [4].

However, in the other case, when you killed your wife for no reason at all, it is a clear sign of a mental issue. Murder's need to have a reason or motive. A lack of motive means there is a high risk of killing again for no reason [5].

For this very reason, the words can have a significant effect on the punishment you may receive for your actions. I suppose the question is, do you want to spend the rest of your life in a pretty padded room with doctors staring at you through a small window? Or do you want the courts to order you a penis enlargement surgery and an internship at the playboy mansion? If you choose the later, make sure to mention that the only reason you killed her was because she said you had a deedle nick.

Thank you,

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Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by Man-is-good 5 years ago
Man-is-good
Oh yes, I forgot............
Posted by Ore_Ele 5 years ago
Ore_Ele
no comments on my sources? Sad.
Posted by 000ike 5 years ago
000ike
Does Rr know that we have forums, where he could have asked this question?
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Reasons for voting decision: Con made no argument.
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Reasons for voting decision: Duh
Vote Placed by jm_notguilty 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Obvious win, CON didn't even argue.
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Reasons for voting decision: It can be used as a defense. It is a poor defense and no one has ever gotten away with it but it is still a defense as the pro argued
Vote Placed by Man-is-good 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con loses conduct for, in spite of even making himself Con in the debate, he failed to even argue his position....Fortunately, Ore masterly saved the day. Whether eschewing deep and profound truths in his pictures, or in the message of the ingestion of cream and the rubbing of rhubabs, Ore manages to make an argument that stands the whips of time.. (Note this was a parody RFD in response to Ore_Ele's arguments....)
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Reasons for voting decision: Can words be a defense ? "Yes, anything can be a defense" lol Would of been better to ask this question in the forums. Maybe later Con would of formulated an argument something along the lines of words should not be allowed as a defense in criminal cases, which is what I suspect they had in mind.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con didn't make an argument.