I am rebuting to both the argument posted my the contender and the argument posted by forgiven also. The question isn't whether homosexuality is wrong. Or if gay people will go to heaven. The question posted is it possible to be gay and christian? The question also was not is there such a thing as gay Christians. Yes, through your scriptures there is no doubt that homosexuality is a sin. That is; the act of homosexuality is a sin. Question to those who read this argument? Have you ever looked upon a man/or woman and had sex fantasies about them. Or maybe just out of the blue? Matthew 5:8 "For I tell you that any man that looks upon a woman with lust has already committed adultery in his." The British Sexual Fantasies Research Project reveals that 96% percent of adult males fantasize about sex while 90% of adult woman fantasize about sex. You may say well I never fantasize about sex!!! You may be lying but I can't read your mind so I would have to take your word for it. Speak of the devil, this is one that none of us can deny that we do on a daily basis. This statement was also made by the one commentary "I don't call myself a Liar Christian?" For this portion of the argument, I am going to be referring to the Book of Acts specifically Acts 5:1-11 Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property. 2 With his wife"s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles" feet. 3 Then Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn"t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn"t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God."5 When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. 6 Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him. 7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, "Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?" "Yes," she said, "that is the price." 9 Peter said to her, "How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also." 10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events." I will be honest I copied and pasted this from bible gateway.com and this is from the NIV as is Matthew 5. Now this passage of scripture, this couple was doing as all the disciples and followers of Christ were doing at that time; as directed by Jesus himself in Matthew 19:21 to the rich man "Sell all you own and give to the poor, then come and follow me." Ananias did this kind of. He sold all he owned and gave most of the money to the poor. Peter knew that he was lying when he said that he gave all his revenues to the poor. When Peter wasn't mad at him for not giving all he owned to the poor he was mad at him for lying. The interesting thing is the statement Why would you do such a thing? In the NLT it's put in this way Why would you lie about that? Peter also said you weren't just lying to men you were lying to God. Then Ananias heard this and dropped dead. So my next question, have you ever been asked how you are and replied fine when your really not fine. Or maybe even replied to a woman who asked if I look okay and told her yes when she really didn't look that great at all. "Well those are just white lies." According to this passage the bible doesn't differentiate. Now my point by pointing out all these sins. We all do commit these acts in our daily lives whether we realize it or not. When we talk about homosexuality the common set of mind in this decade is to love the sinner and hate the sin. This is the only topic in which we use this phrase. We rarely talk about this when it comes to an alcoholic or a fornicator. When we think about a gay person coming into the church, we expect them to stop all acts, thoughts, and reasons right then and there BEFORE coming to Jesus. Yet there is forgiveness of sin when it comes to relapses with a drug addict. I will refer back the scripture in my last contention. Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Our faith rests on Jesus not by our works but His. And by first believing that Jesus died for our sins that is the moment that salvation arrives then the journey for freedom begins. This ends my rebuttle and final statements.
labarum forfeited this round.