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Capital Punishment

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/29/2012 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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smithk96

Pro

The term capital punishment stands for the punishment as death due to the crime. I feel like a person shouldn't get capital punishment due to robbing a candy store; but like the bible says an "eye for an eye". Where I'm getting at with that is that, if someone takes takes a life, their life should be taken as well. As we are told only God can take a life that he created.
Contra

Con

C1: Human Rights, Not Constitutional


(A)
The way that capital punishment is carried out is fundamentally flawed. There is no humane way of carrying it out. Lethal injection causes paralysis and can be considered as cruel and unusual punishment. The electric chair also causes extreme cruelty, with details so graphic I best not describe them.

(B) Since 1990, each year an average of about 3 nations have abolished the death penalty. Now, 2/3rds of all nations have ended capital punishment. [1] From this information, we can conclude that the world is moving away from this barbaric medieval practice called the death penalty. We should also become more civilized and abolish the death penalty like the rest of the modern world. The death penalty also is putting us at a disadvantage, since we lose the moral high ground.

(C) Since there is no humane way of carrying out the death penalty, it is thus cruel and unusual punishment clearly. Cruel and unusual punishment is banned in the Constitution, the 8th Amendment. [2]


C2: Imperfect Justice


(A) There have been 273 post-convicted exonerations and 206 exonerations since 2000. Of those exonerations, 17 out of 273 of them were found to be innocent by DNA testing and were on death row. [4]

(B) Many others not exonerated and were executed could of been innocent. After somebody is executed, most law professionals move on to other cases. Many people of the 1,000 executed since 1976 could have been innocent for no gain. [5]


C3: Financial Cost


(A) The cost of the death penalty is huge. When you consider the costs of the courts, putting somebody on the death waiting list (or what it is called), it costs $1.25 million more than life in prison w/out parole. [3] The filings for somebody being executed takes many years.

Overall, the US has exonerated 138 death row inmates to date so far.




******Side note is that the arguments only have 1 hr to argue, and I am going to go on a 4 mile run and stretching, so if my next argument is forfeited, I apologize.

Thank you.




Sources:

http://www.amnestyusa.org...

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...

http://www.deathpenalty.org...

http://www.innocenceproject.org...

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org...
Debate Round No. 1
smithk96

Pro

C1.
A. "The way that capital punishment is carried out is fundamentally flawed. There is no humane way of carrying it out."
Yes, I understand that, but is them killing another person humane? I think not, at least that's my opinion.
B. Yes, it might be barbaric way of punishing someone, but in a way the deserve it. If they were barbaric enough to get themselves it that situation in the first place, then they should be put to death in a barbaric way.
C3.
Yes, it might cost money, but at the same time keeping them in jail costs even more money. "It costs an average of $3.42 a day to keep a prisoner on probation, and $7.47 to keep that same prisoner on parole. Compare that with how costly it is to keep prisoners locked up; it costs an average of $78.95 each day to keep a criminal behind bars."

source:
http://www.creditloan.com...
Contra

Con

---Rebuttals---


"Yes, I understand that, but is them killing another person humane? I think not, at least that's my opinion.


That killing is humane. Plus, YOU said killing is inhumane, so why would killing the killer be any better? We need to have the moral high ground. Contradicted.


B. Yes, it might be barbaric way of punishing someone, but in a way the deserve it. If they were barbaric enough to get themselves it that situation in the first place, then they should be put to death in a barbaric way."

First, killing somebody at all, and giving a person cruel and unusual punishment is contrary to the Constitution. The 8th amendment as I said bans "cruel and unsusual punishment". [1] So, they DO NOT deserve it, since it is against our founding document for our nation.

Second, the validity of human rights needs to be maintained. The world is moving ever closer to a more civilized state, in which capital punishment is banned. We need to go there as well.

"Yes, it might cost money, but at the same time keeping them in jail costs even more money. "It costs an average of $3.42 a day to keep a prisoner on probation, and $7.47 to keep that same prisoner on parole. Compare that with how costly it is to keep prisoners locked up; it costs an average of $78.95 each day to keep a criminal behind bars."

It may cost about $80 a day to keep a criminal locked up, but putting someone on death row for Capital Punishment costs $1.25 million MORE. [2] In other terms, $1,250,000 more, and what do we get besides losing the moral high ground, breaking the Constitution, and violating human rights and killing possibly an innocent person? [3]

Out of time

Sources:

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...

http://www.deathpenalty.org...

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org...
Debate Round No. 2
smithk96

Pro

See, but your belief and my belief differ. You believe that taking any human life is wrong. I believe that if a person takes a life, their life should be taken as well.
Contra

Con

"See, but your belief and my belief differ. You believe that taking any human life is wrong. I believe that if a person takes a life, their life should be taken as well."

As I have said, this is cruel and unusual punishment, and is thus unconstitutional by the 8th amendment. Also, when you take their life, it costs much more, you lose the moral high ground, and you have a risk of taking the life of an innocent person.
Debate Round No. 3
smithk96

Pro

smithk96 forfeited this round.
Contra

Con

Vote CONtra

"Contra" is a latin preposition, and the word "CON" actually is a shortened word made of the basis of the word contra.
Debate Round No. 4
smithk96

Pro

Sorry, the time constraint killed me, but like I was saying....

See but when you say that we are inhumane by killing people, isn't in inhumane that they killed another person. There for since they just killed they should be killed also, so your saying that it is okay to kill, another person. And with the argument about innocent people there has only be 140 people on death row that have been innocent since 1973. Which is not a lot, compared to how many deaths happen a day due to capital punishment.

THERE FORE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE PRO!!!!!!
Contra

Con

Contra forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: Most of Pro's arguments did not make sense and Con's were unrefuted. Obvious Con win.
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Reasons for voting decision: CON's arguments are faulty, but never refuted and , well, just plain better then pros. I really dont feel a need to make a an rfd for this, simply read the debate, its a simple vote.