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Mike_X
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The_Chaos_Heart
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Capitalism is better than communsim

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The_Chaos_Heart
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/7/2012 Category: Economics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Mike_X

Pro

Well I feel that a country can make more progress in a capitalistic economic form. Centrally Planned Economic countries such as the USSR have not been successful in the long run. It also seems that communism is more common in underdeveloped countries that are not currently filled with a very happy populace. Your thoughts?
The_Chaos_Heart

Con

My opponent has claimed that Capitalism is the better system for the following two reasons:

1) The failure of the USSR.
2) An unhappy populace in Communist countries.



The main problem of my opponents claim is that, the USSR, nor any modern "Communist" nation, is actually Communist.


A Communist society is a society which is classless and stateless[1]. By this definition, nations such as the former USSR, China, Korea, Cuba, and others, were not "Communist". The USSR specifically was what is known as a Socialist State.[2] However, by it's very definition, the USSR had a state; and a very large one at that. This in of itself disproves it as a Communist nation. by relation, unhappy people in these countries is not the fault of Communism, but of the governments which rule over them.



Most people recognize that Communism is a better system than Capitalism. It is a Utopian society. People will criticise the ability for humanity to reach that level of society, but it is undoubted that a society where everyone's needs are met, where everyone shares everything, and where no one is left to suffer, is superior to s society of winners and losers; the kind of society Capitalism breeds. However, this debate is not about whether or not Communism is possible, but whether or not the idea of Communism is superior to Capitalism. To which the answer is obvious. Communism is characterized by an egalitarian society; without race or gender issues. Without poor or needy. Whereas it is possible for Capitalism to exist with these problems, as Capitalism is not dependant, but rather, thrives on a class structure, it is impossible for Communism to exist with these issues, as by definition, that would create different classes. A communist society is one where everyone is able to receive what they need, while being expected to contribute nothing more than what they can, and what is needed. Given that all work is shared by the populace, there would be a surplus of workers, and therefore, everyone would need to work less individually, which would lead for more free time for people to pursue their own goals, separate from work. Given also that people are no longer bound to what class they are born into, and what money they have, Communism is also the height of individuality; People are free to do what they please, learn what they please, ect., so long as it does not bring harm to other people.

Further more, in nations where people have turned to Socialism, they have often done so after years of oppression by the heel of violent, sometimes dictitorial regimes...which were Capitalist. They former USSR is a great exmaple of this. Capitalism inevitably leads to the oppression of the working class. If Capitalism were oh so good in comparison to Communist, people would not adandone Capitalist ways in favor of trying to pursue Communism and Socialism.

Clearly, given that a true Communist society would a social utopia (whether or not it's possible to achieve), it is vastly superior to a Capitalist one.





Sources

1. http://en.wikipedia.org...
2. http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 1
Mike_X

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