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elizabeth2468
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Thirstforknowledge
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Started: 6/28/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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elizabeth2468

Con

why do footballers get more money than doctor when doctors save your life and footballers just kick a ball about. If you were about to die you would call a doctor to save your life. footballers are just entrainment doctors actual save people's life everyday.
the world can survive without football but we can't survive without a doctor. Doctor do so much but earn so little compared to a football. per year
foottball can earn from
"3,000,000,-"5,000,000
doctors are only getting 406,154
this isn't fair at all doctors save life
footballers just create entertainment.
Thirstforknowledge

Pro

Just to be clear this debate is on careers and you have chosen the con side. A career as defined by IDictionary is a profession for which one trains and which is undertaken as a permanent calling. Source-http://i.word.com.... This means con must prove why the concept of having a particular occupation for a prolonged period of time is not good. Now I will refute some of con's points. 1. Con states that football players make between 3 million and 5 million, while this is true for some the average MLS player makes $141,903 source-soundaheart.com. Yes it may seem as if soccer players make more but you have to realise that the higher the salary the more attention that player will receive. 2. Cons main argument against careers is that doctors are more important than soccer players. Yes they do save lives, but they signed an agreement with their employer believing there salary is fair amount to how much work they put in. In a free market society the business and employ determine the pay. Now on to my points to why careers are good. 1. Sticking with the same job overtime will increase your pay and benefits. 2. Most jobs require a diploma which is expensive and time consuming so switching from job to job is costly. 3.A stable income is needed to raise a family. 4. Businesses usually fire people with the least seniority so it's not always good to be the new guy. 5. Finding a job in hard economic times will not be easy. 6. You might develop friendships in a stable job. P.S. this is my first debate
Debate Round No. 1
elizabeth2468

Con

elizabeth2468 forfeited this round.
Thirstforknowledge

Pro

To further elaborate on my points
1. If you stay with the same job you will receive a pay raise and an increase in vacation time. Switching from job to job will leave you with minimum benefits and a low pay compared to the average of that occupation. Also staying with the same business will help you get promoted and in turn a large pay increase.
2. Almost every high paying job in Western society requires a diploma in that occupation, tuitions for college are costly and time consuming. You will have to start using your free time to study and go to classes.
3.Switching from job to job will not provide enough income to sustain a family. Finding a career will provide you with a steady income that is needed for a family.
4. As the new guy you will first one the list of possible lay-offs.
5. When the economy is not doing well finding a job will be hard and you will find yourself unemployed often.
6. Developing friendships with co-workers is a nice benefit of the having a career.
Debate Round No. 2
elizabeth2468

Con

considering what you said about switching to different jobs is true are still not defining why it's fair for footballers to get more money than doctor.
footballer are such cry babies the bigger the match the more fouls and corners there will be the only time when they're civil is when they're all shaking each others hand and wishing a good match.an hours later you've had 5 corners 2 reds and at the end of it all you see Suarez going and biting people!?!
even when someone just touches their leg go bawling making the ref give them a free kick. This is unbelievably unfair because other is swearing and cursing each other over someone laces!?!

doctors now you don't see them crying over nothing in fact they're out there saving life getting people off drugs and smoking. Footballers only get for money because they're entertaining people with world cup and other leagues. football has also increased the percentage off poor this is wrong
Thirstforknowledge

Pro

1.Again if the doctors doesn't like how much he is getting payed he doesn't have to work there he signed the contract with his employer.
2.As I said in the first round doctors actually make more then most soccer players. It's just the high profile players that make the biggest bucks.
3. Yes It may seem that a doctors job is more important but this is a free market meaning the company pays you based on the number of people qualified to perform your job, how valuable you are to the company, and how much the company can afford to pay you. For one their are far more doctors then professional soccer players so good soccer players are rare. Second soccer players rack in millions of dollars in revenue for the professional team through jersey sales and tickets. Lastly professional sports teams are making a ton of profit now so they can afford to pay them, on the other hand hosipitals are struggling to make a meager profit.
Yes I get that what doctors do seam more important than soccer players,but should that alone drive everyone to quit their jobs and ruin their lives?
Debate Round No. 3
elizabeth2468

Con

to clarify you agree that it's fair for footballers to get more money than doctor. if I may I can ask you to say clearly and state why you think it's right when footballers are entertainment and doctors are lifesaver.
ok, yes, sometimes you get angry when GP's keep giving you depression tablets when though you don't need it but it's what the NHS and government are telling them to do.

footballers on the other hand need the doctor more than anyone sometimes because when they hurt themselves someone needs to be trained in first aid to help them and apply the right medicine and pain killers to help them continue playing the match.
for example Neymar really needs doctors help now because of all type of injures he's having now because of what Kerala Ayurveda did by accident. this affected brazil following game because all their minds were focused on Neymar mean they weren't concentrating on the game against Germany. Germany knew this and were able to win the game 1-7 to them.
Thirstforknowledge

Pro

Thirstforknowledge forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
elizabeth2468

Con

elizabeth2468 forfeited this round.
Thirstforknowledge

Pro

1.Yes I believe that it is okay for soccer players to get more then doctors because it is a free market and their is a far greater amount of possible doctors then soccer players.
2. Um I don't get angry at doctors for giving others anti-depressants and please refrain from putting words in my mouth.
3. Also you use the term doctor interchangeable with any medical personal, for instance general physicians are not the ones helping injured players it is usually physical therapists and trainers.
Con has failed to prove why the concept of careers is bad. This debeat is simply on Careers the act of having a career for a prolonged period of time. Con's only argument is that because soccer players make more then certain doctors the whole idea of keeping your job for a long time is wrong. Is this is enough evidence to back up con's argument, absolutely no. Also con provided no sources so to wrap it up vote Pro.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Longline 2 years ago
Longline
"why do footballers get more money than doctor when doctors save your life and footballers just kick a ball about"
To be honest it's not the doctors that save life's, when you are cut you go to the hospital, a doctor is their to just clean it and put Medicean on it, it's up to your body to heal you and return you to normal. When you have a illness that has no cure, you go to the hospital and doctors can't save you. And we should know that it's not the doctors that heal us, our body does all the work, doctors just work with our body already build in defend system, they don't do anything more then that. If they replace a bone guess what? Anybody can actually replace a bone, but the real work is, your body nows has to accept that bone that was put in, and your body has to heal all the wound around it, also if they have not replace that bone, your body will develop an alternative for that missing bone, just like how people who have no arms are able to use their foot like arms. Doctor is just a title, they are their to help your body do its job, nothing more.
Posted by alyfish126 2 years ago
alyfish126
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