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zommunist
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Stottinator
Con (against)
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Centrally planned economy is NOT the most optimal economic development model

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zommunist
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/21/2014 Category: Economics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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zommunist

Pro

I will be challenging Stottinator on the common Communist claim that the centrally planned economy. which is thought to be superior to the market and possibly other models. Please note in this debate the command economy will be used interchangeably with the CENTRALLY planned economy.

First round is for accepting the challenge

Second is for opening arguments

Third is for rebuttals/more arguments

Fourth is for further rebuttals and conclusion

I now await your answer, comrade...
Stottinator

Con

I accept.
Debate Round No. 1
zommunist

Pro

To start off, a centrally planned economy is defined as:

An economic system in which economic decisions are made by the state or government rather than by the interaction between consumers and businesses. Unlike a market economy in which production decisions are made by private citizens and business owners, a centrally planned economy seeks to control what is produced and how resources are distributed and used. The production of goods and services is undertaken by state-owned enterprises.

Source: http://www.investopedia.com...

It is a system where all goods and services produced, supply and demand as well as almost all of the economic activities in a country is dictated by the government, the party or whoever's 'at the top', hence the word 'central'. Supposedly it will increase efficiency as the wasteful competition between firms in the market had been eliminated. However, although 'wasteful competition' is eliminated, centrally planned economies turn out to be very inefficient.

To start off, let's quote examples. The USSR, East Germany, North Korea, etc. are all command economies. But the huge disincentives as well as suppressed inflation, compounded by misallocation of resources (as in different, imbalanced levels of investment in various sectors) had created massive bread queues as seen here:



Central planning is very clumsy, the party or whatever organisation in charge tends to coordinate absolutely every detail of production, always with inadequate information, to create what they perceive to be plenty. The party officials do not understand the nature of the economy, always ignoring what the people's objections in order to safeguard the plan. They also do not understand the law of diminishing marginal returns, and too many workers are allocated to the already oversized industrial and military sector. The party also dictates the jobs for every individual, what they must do, where they must live etc. This is not only dictatorial, it is dictatorial in a very FEUDAL style, with the Communist Party 'lords' and the the proletarian 'serfs'.


I'm done with my opening statement, I now turn to my esteemed opponent...
Stottinator

Con

Stottinator forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
zommunist

Pro

I must say central planning also infringes upon personal freedom. The Communist planners, in need to control the flow of labour and capital, as well as the whole economy, must direct every single activity of the citizens. Citizens of these centralised states are essentially assets, living in prison states. Totalitarianism is required for central planning to work, because without positive incentives or 'carrots', the other mean of motivation is by coercion and control.


Now to you...
Stottinator

Con

Stottinator forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
zommunist

Pro

In that case I hereby conclude this rather uneventful an disappointing debate.

Centralised planning is not the most optimal mode of economic development. It worships bigness for the sake of bigness. It creates a sham progress where exaggerated progress are caused by the doctoring of figures by frightened officials. It robs individuals of creativity, independence and freedom. The system is against the rule of law, placing the planners above the rest of the population and to give these few individuals too much power. The system is clumsy, unfair and inflexible. Worst of all, the totalitarian atmosphere of centralised planning creates a downward spiral to a world of imaginary progress but real despair. The planners aim to solve some market failure by terminating the market will eventually create a nightmarish regime.

The failures and dangers of central planning was told by many, from Hayek to Acton, to Orwell and even Marx.

I hereby rest my case, and thank my opponent for at least accepting the debate...
Stottinator

Con

Stottinator forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
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