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Russia_The_almighty
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Ariesx
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China Is the Strongest Nation on Earth

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Russia_The_almighty
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/21/2015 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Russia_The_almighty

Con

I will be debating China is not the strongest nation.
Round 1 Acceptance
Rounds 2-4 Arguments and rebuttals
Round 5 Final rebuttals and closing statement
Ariesx

Pro

I accept, and will be arguing that America's slow downfall will help China emerge.
Debate Round No. 1
Russia_The_almighty

Con

Note: I will not completely direct my arguments on America. Also this debate is about if China is the strongest nation, not China will be the strongest nation.

OK let me begin.
Here's a few sources:
1. http://www.military-today.com... China holds a mere tenth place for best military planes.
2. http://www.military-today.com... China once again only holds tenth compared to America and Russia.
3. http://www.ploughshares.org... America and Russia dwarf the Chinese nuclear arsenal.
4. You may be thinking, how could Russia beat China if they did go to war? Well lets see who has the allies. Besides Russia's allies, all I can think of China has for an ally is North Korea. Russia on the other hand, has Iran, Belarus, Cuba, Venezuela, and Serbia. Taiwan, Vietnam, South Korea, and the Philippines may also join as they hate China. Japan hates both of them so they would be neutral. Ukraine may join China along with Finland, but would fail easily as Ukraine is already mostly overwhelmed by pro Russian rebels. NATO along with America would not want any trouble with them. China hates India and vice versa so that could also be in Russia's favor.
5. Population as you may think is a big factor to victory. Here is my rebuttal. NO. Let's see, according to this article, one-fifth of Chinese farmland is polluted. That is a lot considering from my knowledge they don't have much farmland to begin with. If the US and its allies cut of food supplies to China, they will STARVE. North Korea doesn't have a lot of farmland, Russia is pretty cold along with much of Siberia only being oil facilities, Iran is in the desert, I highly doubt Venezuela and Cuba have enough to support all of them. ://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/world/asia/one-fifth-of-chinas-farmland-is-polluted-state-report-finds.html?_r=0
6. China has slightly better cyber warfare than Russia. Israel is pretty even with China and Israel is a US ally.
7. http://www.globalfirepower.com... China is a mere third here while USA is first and Russia second.
8. http://www.military-today.com... America and Russia both are better than China here.
9. http://www.military-today.com... China isn't on the list of top ten best transport planes.
10. http://www.military-today.com... China is seventh place for best bomber aircraft while America and Russia take all other places here.
11. Russia and America both have more aircraft than China meaning they have superior quality and quantity. http://www.globalfirepower.com...
12. http://www.military-today.com... Once again China is behind America and Russia. This time in aircraft carriers.
13. http://www.military-today.com... China wasn't even be original to have a better infantry fighting vehicle than Russia.
14. http://www.military-today.com... China doesn't even have a APC good enough to be in the top 10.
15. http://www.military-today.com... China didn't reverse engineer a submarine good enough to be in the top ten.
16. Tell me if my sight is wrong because China isn't on here for best elite fighters. http://atchuup.com...
A war can determine everything on who is stronger. Realistically, assuming both sides had equally competent generals, China could not hope to Invade the USA. As for Russia they could, but unless they can get to Moscow before the infamous Russian winter sets in, China will not be able to win.
Let us see what you can come up with.
Ariesx

Pro

Ariesx forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Russia_The_almighty

Con

I hope pro doesn't forfeit again.
Anyways, while America owes China money and American businesses are there, America can hurt China more that way. If China requested our debt money we could just ignore it and remove the money we owe from our debt. America gets a wounded reputation while China loses nearly 2 trillion dollars. If China pulled the plug on American businesses, both will be hurt. However with American businesses expanding to India, the effect would only be temporary, while for China, they end up with unemployment with quite a few businesses with likely millions of jobs gone.
Ariesx

Pro

Ariesx forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Russia_The_almighty

Con

Is this a joke?
Ariesx

Pro

Ariesx forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Russia_The_almighty

Con

I am pretty sure this means I win. Although I did want to debate this topic seriously.
Ariesx

Pro

Ariesx forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by Dynasty2468 2 years ago
Dynasty2468
I kinda object to RTA's argument...but that's Pro's job
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Vote Placed by greatkitteh 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro forfeited alot and failed to explain his case. And, he also failed of presenting reasonable information. They both had even grammar. And Con presented very good sources. That is why I voted for con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro forfeited the entire debate, and provided no arguments, and did not refute any of Con's arguments. Also, Con was the only one to use sources. So arguments, conduct, and sources to Con.