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Chrisitians should not celebrate halloween

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Started: 3/3/2009 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Justinisthecrazy

Pro

I am taking the pros side saying Christinans should not celebrate Halloween

The atmosphere of Halloween celebrations is marked with fun, mischief and the
evil forces of nature, but the origins of this celebration are quite solemn.
Celebrated on October 31st, Halloween is one of the oldest holidays-having
originated thousands of years ago!

The belief system behind Halloween came from the druids, the priests of ancient
Gaul and Britain. The druids believed that witches, demons, and spirits of the
dead roamed the earth on the eve of November 1. Halloween originally was a Druid
holy day called "The Vigil Of Saman." In early Britain it was called
the festival of Samhain, which is pronounced sow-en. This festival would last
for 3 days and many people would parade in costumes made from the skins and
heads of animals.
The spread of Christianity did not make people forget their early customs. When
Roman Catholicism became a world political and religious power the pagan customs
were still widely celebrated. On the eve of All Hallows, Oct. 31, people
continued to celebrate the festivals of Samhain and Pomona Day. In 800 A.D. the
Roman Catholic Church moved "All Saints' Day" from May to November
1st. All of the "saints" who did not have a special day to their honor
on the Catholic calendar were to be honored on All Saints' Day-a time to pay
respect to the dead by visiting their graves. The "new day" that was
to replace the pagan vigil of the dead was called "All Hallow's
Day". It soon became the custom to call the evening before, "All
Hallow's Eve", which was soon shortened to Halloween. The Halloween we
celebrate today includes all of these influences, Pomona Day's apples, nuts,
and harvest, the Festival of Samhain's black cats, magic, evil spirits and
death, and the ghosts, skeletons and skulls from All Saint's Day and All
Soul's Day.
As Christians, what do we do?

Remember the name of the holiday is the only thing that has changed; Halloween
still carries some of its pagan significance and there is no Christian
significance to be found in Halloween. Jesus Christ is conspicuously absent!
Wise parents are replacing Halloween with family night activities. Others are
having "Hallelujah nights" or "Glory Gatherings" where all
references to Halloween are removed and wholesome games are played, Christian
songs are sung and Christian videos are shown. Others are using Halloween as a
night to pass out Gospel literature.

Satan, the god of this evil world, has blinded the minds of those who don't
believe, so they are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News that is
shining upon them. They don't understand the message we preach about the
glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
- 2 Cor. 4:4 (NLT)

Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, rebuke and
expose them.
- Ephesians 5:11 (NLT)

As a Children's Pastor for over 20 years I took this approach to this
holiday: We need to beware of its origins, its history and its dangers. From
Romans 12:21 (NLT) we can be encouraged,
Don't let evil get the best of you, but conquer evil by doing good.

I chose to use the good things like families getting together, enjoying one
another to conquer the evil in this world. We would sponsor Harvest Festival
Night which provided safe candy, games and an opportunity to meet Jesus through
music, puppets and a gospel message. Through the years many kids and even whole
families would make decisions for the Lord.

Selected scriptures on this subject

For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do
not let your people practice fortune-telling or sorcery, or allow them to
interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, [11] or cast spells, or function as
mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead.
- Deut. 18:10-11 (NLT)

Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him
thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. The
result was that their minds became dark and confused. [22] Claiming to be wise,
they became utter fools instead. [23] And instead of worshiping the glorious,
ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people, or birds
and animals and snakes.
- Romans 1:21-23 (NLT)

You cannot drink from the cup of the Lord and from the cup of demons, too. You
cannot eat at the Lord's Table and at the table of demons, too.
- 1 Cor. 10:21 (NLT)

So I advise you to live according to your new life in the Holy Spirit. Then you
won't be doing what your sinful nature craves. [17] The old sinful nature
loves to do evil, which is just opposite from what the Holy Spirit wants. And
the Spirit gives us desires that are opposite from what the sinful nature
desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, and your choices
are never free from this conflict. [18] But when you are directed by the Holy
Spirit, you are no longer subject to the law. [19] When you follow the desires
of your sinful nature, your lives will produce these evil results: sexual
immorality, impure thoughts, eagerness for lustful pleasure, [20] idolatry,
participation in demonic activities, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts
of anger, selfish ambition, divisions, the feeling that everyone is wrong except
those in your own little group, [21] envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other
kinds of sin. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that
sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
- Galatians 5:16-21 (NLT)

Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, rebuke and
expose them.
- Ephes. 5:11 (NLT)

For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the
evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of
darkness who rule this world, and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms.
- Ephes. 6:12 (NLT)

Keep away from every kind of evil.
- 1 Thes. 5:22 (NLT)

Be careful! Watch out for attacks from the Devil, your great enemy. He prowls
around like a roaring lion, looking for some victim to devour.
- 1 Peter 5:8 (NLT)
weather

Con

Gees lighten up man, Halloween is a time of fun and candy! yea the origins aren't good, but they aren't anymore, look at NASCAR, it started wit a boy trying to out run the cops because he took over his dad's moonshinin' business (Moonshine is a common term for home-distilled alcohol, especially in places where this production is illegal) does this mean Christians shouldn't be a NASCAR fan? The Bible does say not to get drunk, and NASCAR's origin does have alcohol in it don't yea know. Now don't forget boxing, the Bible says to turn the other cheek.

If you go to a preschool, or elementary school and ask "why did you do Halloween?" and truth be told, I bet not one of those kids would say "because by mommy worships the devil, and she was practising witch craft" no, they all would say something like "I like to dress up and get candy."

I'm sure many Christians have had bad history, possibly they were prostitutes, or Gothic, but does that mean we shouldn't celebrate them on birthdays or anniversaries??

yea harvest festivals are good, and Jesus' word is spread, but have you ever thought about giving out candy with Bible tracts on them? Or just give out tracts, or if you really want to get their attention hand out vinegar samples with Bible verses on them.

Really all Halloween is is a big party where we can scare each other and give, eat candy.
Debate Round No. 1
Justinisthecrazy

Pro

The bible says not to get drunk but does not say you cannot drink. Therefore the alcohol issue you bring up about NASCAR is illegitimate and I do not see how it pertains to the debate.

You have skewed the text on turning the other cheek. It means that if someone wrongs you, you are to kill them will kindness. Boxing is a sport and is not someone wronging you. Therefore I do not see how that is legitimate.

We are not discussing what we should do on halloween but whether halloween should be celebrated by Christians.

I stand on my first attack on the issue
weather

Con

we should kill the man who wronged us with kindness??? I'm sorry but you miss interpreted that metaphor, to which I bring up another, when one is killed, who kills the man who killed him, but than who kills the man who kills the man who killed the man and so on?

The bible does say to dink but not be drunk, but alcohol can cause birth defects in pregnant women.

But dude, times have changed, yea Halloween has a bad past, but so do people! should we not celebrate ourselves?

And you give all those verses, yea evil is bad and should be avoided at all costs, but Halloween is not evil! may point out the argument that I brought up before with the preschool kids, that you ignored, If you go to a preschool, or elementary school and ask "why did you do Halloween?" and truth be told, I bet not one of those kids would say "because by mommy worships the devil, and she was practising witch craft" no, they all would say something like "I like to dress up and get candy." those little people aren't practising with or worshiping demons or practising witch craft! no one throws party's for Halloween because of its past but it is for wee little people to dress up an get candy and have fun!

Not every thing has the perfect past, Halloween, and nascar are just two, but I am sure many more are there, you just pointed out Halloween, we still like them, event though they are wrong, and to think you want to get rid of the one that brings joy to the little people who are sad that they just started the 16 year journey through school? Halloween is not evil anymore, just like a radioactive mound that was closed to the public for twenty years, its better now, the radiation is gone and the evil is gone in Halloween.

Halloween should be celebrated by Christians, but not as what you think it is because it isn't that.

How dare you literally take candy form Babies, they are Christian babes, innocent Christian babies that just dress up as pumpkins and butterflies, who have fun and get candy, that they most likely won't eat, but it is also exercise. Gees lay off. It isn't that bad, have I not made myself clear?

I wish I could debate more on this but it is only a two round debate.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by Justinisthecrazy 7 years ago
Justinisthecrazy
mostly i forgot it was only two rounds
Posted by Justinisthecrazy 7 years ago
Justinisthecrazy
haha ya o well it happens
Posted by Epicism 7 years ago
Epicism
Sorry If you put forth even a litttttle bit more effort in the 2nd round I would have voted for pro.

Now I have to vote Con on the terms of Haloween not having the same origin as it used too, because well he was right it doesn't and you didn't clear that up at all so you just basically agreed "Hey the OLD version of haloween is bad for christians, but the new one is different so it doesn't matter"

Interesting topic, learn somthing new everyday here.
Posted by Epicism 7 years ago
Epicism
Haha "how dare you take candy from christian babies" I loved that :P
Posted by Justinisthecrazy 7 years ago
Justinisthecrazy
also I myself participate in halloween I was just looking for an interesting debate topic and for some reason this came to mind so I did some research and viola!
Posted by Justinisthecrazy 7 years ago
Justinisthecrazy
agreed cuz christmas has nothing to do with the actual birth of the messiagh
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
brian_eggleston
I'm just surprised the Christians haven't got their grubby little mitts on May Day yet. Thanks to the Puritans, in the US May the 1st it is known as "Labor Day" but in England its pagan origins still continue with the May King and Queen, Morris dancers and children all dancing around the Maypole in towns and villages up and down the land.
Posted by brian_eggleston 7 years ago
brian_eggleston
Christmas was another pagan festival - Yuletide - that the Christians hijacked. No, Christians shouldn't celebrate Halloween, or Christmas for that matter, these festivals have nothing to do with them!
Posted by KRFournier 7 years ago
KRFournier
Would you consider wearing costumes and trick-or-treating celebrating halloween? Just want to clarify before deciding to take this.
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