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Antigravitybelt
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Sarahlynnn
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Christianity has more practical proof of truth than other religions

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Started: 5/15/2015 Category: Religion
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Antigravitybelt

Pro

I am arguing that Christianity is the most logical religion to believe.

This debate's only rules are that there is an assumption of a spirit realm.
Sarahlynnn

Con

I think Muslim has more practical proof of truth then other religions because the Muslim religion doesn't beat around the bush. The Quran gives all logical reasoning for the way we live where as the Bible has most parts that are hard to wrap your mind around. The Bible says that Jesus died for our sins and is Gods one and only son. The Quran states that Jesus is only a Prophet like those before him such as Moses. For each time period humans existed, only one profit was alive at a time. The Purpose of the prophets was to spread the word of God, and it is understanding as to why writers of the Bible believed Jesus died for our sins but he was not the only Evangelist who proved to have Godly powers.
Muslim is the fastest growing religion and right now Christians are converting to Muslim hand over fist because everything in the Quran makes sense but at the same time doesn't put down that there is a God, it has a lot of common ground with the Bible.
Debate Round No. 1
Antigravitybelt

Pro

Thank you for accepting the challenge con!
Remember, the goal is to prove that another religion has more practical proof "of truth" than Christianity.

I will use my first argument to say that Jesus fulfilled over 300 messianic prophecies written in the Old Testament. A prophecy is when a prophet, inspired by God, foretells an event that will happen in the future. The Old Testament has many prophecies of the messiah, what He will be like and what He will do.

Definition of messiah: "anointed one"

Some of the prophecies also talk about the messiah being a bit more than just a prophet, as in:
Isaiah 9:6 - "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

Here is a list of 356 messianic prophecies - http://bibleprobe.com... - all from the Old Testament, all of which Jesus fulfilled as is revealed in the Gospels and other books in the New Testament.

The odds of one person to fulfilling just 8 messianic prophecies are 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That is, Jesus overcame 1:100 quadrillion odds when He fulfilled 8 messianic prophecies, except He fulfilled over 300.

Here is a list of 365: http://bibleprobe.com...
Sarahlynnn

Con

Sarahlynnn forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Antigravitybelt

Pro

I'm afraid the spirit of this debate has fluttered away, but I will still come with an interesting post to promote my view.

I will make a point about specific prophecies written in the Bible that came to pass after the writing of the New Testament.

Jesus prophesied His own death and resurrection:
Mark 8:31 - "And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again."
- Even if you believe his disciples stole his body, how could Jesus have predicted they would be able to overcome the Roman soldiers guarding His grave specifically after 3 days?

Jesus prophesied specific calamity which would befall Jerusalem and the Temple:
Matthew 24:2 - "But he answered them, 'You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.'"
Fulfilled in Josephus's account of "The Wars of the Jews".
See the paragraph in this link that is referenced by footnote [2].
http://bit.ly...

Jesus prophesied that people would be killed by people who think they are doing God a service:
John 16:2 - "They will put you out of the synagogues. Indeed, the hour is coming when whoever kills you will think he is offering service to God."

Jesus said His words would not pass away:
Matthew 24:35 - "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away."

Jesus said whoever would follow Him would have the light of life, and not walk in darkness. Christians who truly follow His teachings are a testament to this in their lives:
John 8:12 - "Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, 'I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.'"

Jesus said that believers would receive the Holy Spirit, which Christians who practice His teachings actually experience, myself being a witness to receiving divine assistance in my thinking, attitude, and divine urgings to do good things. He also describes the widespread witness testimony.
Acts 1:8 - "'But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.'"
Sarahlynnn

Con

Sarahlynnn forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
Antigravitybelt

Pro

Unfortunately this isn't a debate, I'll keep my arguments for posts where they'll be read.
Sarahlynnn

Con

Sarahlynnn forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Antigravitybelt

Pro

Antigravitybelt forfeited this round.
Sarahlynnn

Con

Sarahlynnn forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Antigravitybelt 2 years ago
Antigravitybelt
@Allaho This paragraph is from the wikipedia page you referenced: "Ancient sources are virtually unanimous in ascribing the synoptic gospels to, respectively, the apostle Matthew, Peter's interpreter Mark, and Paul's companion Luke, hence their canonical names." Direct link to paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org...

More research found this as an example of a collection of extrabiblical references to the Gospels as being written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.
http://triablogue.blogspot.com....

In the above, one reference is to a writing by Irenaeus titled "Against Heresies". In Book 1, Chapter 8, section 5 of this, he clearly refers to John, the disciple of the Lord, and attributes the Gospel of John to his authorship. John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God; the same was in the beginning with God."
http://www.gnosis.org...
Posted by AllahoAkbar 2 years ago
AllahoAkbar
@Antigravitybelt There is 100s of Christan scholors sources arguing that (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John didn't write the gospels) http://www.christianitydisproved.com... And http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org... synoptic problem (copy and paste) http://en.wikipedia.org...
Posted by Antigravitybelt 2 years ago
Antigravitybelt
@WordIsLife: This debate and some like it are intended to show that Christianity is not like all the others. A large reason is one similar to something you say, about religion. The God of Christianity wants a relationship with those who choose Him; not so in other belief systems. Jesus did not come only for the Israelites, and many of His parables are to show that He also came for the gentiles. A good example is the parable of the wedding banquet. The Israelites were first invited to the banquet but would not come, so the king sent out for any guests who would come, that is the gentiles. Matthew 22: 1-14 - https://www.biblegateway.com...
Posted by Antigravitybelt 2 years ago
Antigravitybelt
Allaho, can you please provide a link or links with proof that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John didn't write the gospels?
Posted by AllahoAkbar 2 years ago
AllahoAkbar
I think all Con have to do is argue that (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) didn't write the Books of (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) because many evidence from the Bible itself and the Church scholars proves so, very easy debate, I will be reading.
Posted by DanMGTOW 2 years ago
DanMGTOW
if your GOD appeared before you and told you to hurt/ kill your child or else you and your child would be tortured forever, and you told your GOD NO, then congrats you are no longer a sheep. however most believers would say YES, most people are way too selfish
Posted by TheWORDisLIFE 2 years ago
TheWORDisLIFE
1. Christianity is the same as all other religions; they teach about a false god and savior and worship those gods.

2. God never gave anyone religion.

3. The Bible is the book of the Israelites ONLY; Christ ONLY came for the Israelites and God ONLY loves the Israelites.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
truth is on the opposite side of religion
Posted by DanMGTOW 2 years ago
DanMGTOW
it is amazing to me how many people need to be able to blame an "all powerful, all knowing GOD" for everything that happens in their life.
fact: a loving and merciful GOD wouldn't create an eternal HELL to torture IT'S creations
fact: a just GOD wouldn't send IT'S creations to be tortured for eternity for any crime
fact: an "all knowing GOD" would know what proof everyone would need to convince anyone of anything

(assuming the GOD of the bible) if there was an "all powerful, all knowing GOD" and everything happened according to HIS/HER/IT'S plan then IT created atheists and other heathens so they could all burn in hell for eternity. . . . if that is what you call "loving and merciful?" then even if i did believe in your GOD, i would not worship IT
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