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foresight
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josh_42
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Christianity unintentially breeds hate.

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josh_42
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/10/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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foresight

Pro

This debate is about man's tendency to breed hate as a result of his affiliation with Christianity.

1. A Man of religion inherently feel superior to those who do not share the same Religious beliefs as he. This feeling of superiority is multiplied when the individual's religious beliefs are challenged. The feeling of superiority exists because the individual believes that no matter what, his faith in christianity is a bridge to salvation; and those who do not agree with his beliefs are damned.

2. Christianity's position on homosexuality as a "life-style choice" creates hate toward the gay population. Evidence of this hate is the fact that the gay population lives a quality of life, to certain extent, of a lesser quality than the non-gay population.

3. In Genesis, the bible lays out clear sex roles for men and women.Feminists who reject "orthodox" Female roles and seek to satisfy the bibles definition of the Males roles are outcasted and ridiculed for challenging the system.

4. Individuals devout in christianity seek to expand Christianity to the entire population. When doctrines are rejected by large populations Christians become frustrated and feel contempt for those resisting. This contempt is prime fertilizer for hate to grow.

The debate is by no means restricted to these four examples of how Christianity unintentionally breeds hate. My opponent is welcome to argue these points or present new points in which they believe proves christianity does not breed hate unintentionally.
josh_42

Con

First of all i would like to thank foresight for this debate

Claim 1:
A Man of religion inherently feel superior to those who do not share the same Religious beliefs as he...

Counterclaim:
"My opponent's argument its opinion not fact. It is true, that -- "A Man ... inherently feel superior to those who do not share the same... beliefs as he" -- but this not limited to religion, and it is opinion that, disagreement or challenging one's beliefs, can lead to hatred. my opponent states --"he feeling of superiority exists because the individual believes that no matter what, his faith in christianity is a bridge to salvation; and those who do not agree with his beliefs are damned."-- So what? His/her Beliefs are their own, why should they matter to me? " why should i allow hatred into my heart if our views disagree.

Claim 2:
"Christianity's position on homosexuality as a "life-style choice" creates hate toward the gay population. Evidence of this hate is the fact that the gay population lives a quality of life, to certain extent, of a lesser quality than the non-gay population."

Counterclaim:
My opponent states-- "Christianity's position on homosexuality as a "life-style choice" creates hate toward the gay population"-- How so? i see now evidence that leads one to hatred. Christianity does not condemn homosexuals, but states that homosexuality is a sin, thats between god and the person. Take the example of Mary Magdalen . Christianity teaches, that Christ befriended her when no one else would. Christ showed compassion to her even though her "life-style choice" was looked down upon.

Claim 3:
I"n Genesis, the bible lays out clear sex roles for men and women.Feminists who reject "orthodox" Female roles and seek to satisfy the bibles definition of the Males roles are outcasted and ridiculed for challenging the system."

Counterclaim
Where in the bible? Men would cling to the bible to assert their dominance over women, but it is really power that the men are afraid of losing, not violating religious text.

Claim 4:
"Individuals devout in christianity seek to expand Christianity to the entire population. When doctrines are rejected by large populations Christians become frustrated and feel contempt for those resisting. This contempt is prime fertilizer for hate to grow."

Counterclaim:
You could you the Crusades and Conquistadors to prove your point, except as my teacher puts it
" They came with a sword in one hand and the Cross in the other".
They Crusades and spanish conquest of the new world, where more about political stature, than the feud of religious dogma. These are examples of where religion is used as a cloak for territorial conquest.

Of course your argument does not apply to only these situations, they could apply to the every day person. But the animosity that may arise, is not from one desires to spread religion, but the from the failures one would receive in spreading these beliefs. You might say this proves your point, but it doesn't. It is a person's ability to cope with rejection that is being observed.

Hatred is a personal issue, one that we allow to enter our minds, not a third party.

Additionally it seems my opponent is basing his argument on "Guilt by Association", which is a logical fallacy.
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Debate Round No. 1
foresight

Pro

foresight forfeited this round.
josh_42

Con

Well, in short , Man breeds his own hatred against man. it is religion and philosophy that come to control man's primal instincts or feelings such as hatred among others.
Debate Round No. 2
foresight

Pro

foresight forfeited this round.
josh_42

Con

extend my argument. Vote C�n
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Epicism 8 years ago
Epicism
Wish foresight would have extended his arguments... Now I can't feel good about voting for him. Good job Josh_42.
Posted by josh_42 8 years ago
josh_42
its an assumption, a cynical one , that rivalry and religion/beliefs cause hate. But it is not the case for every person. some people have evolved beyond these petty quarrels and have learned to live in tolerance and with inner-peace.
Posted by chaos-king 8 years ago
chaos-king
all religion and beliefs breed hate.
different mindsets mean rivalry, which creates hate.
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