Christians are illogical.
| Started: | 5/28/2012 | Category: | Religion |
| Updated: | 11 months ago | Status: | Post Voting Period |
| Viewed: | 506 times | Debate No: | 23918 |
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I will be arguing that "Christians are illogical." Christians believe in Biblical Inspiration. Argument of Biblical Inspiration: The Bible says that God exists.
This argument presupposes (in the second premise) the truth of its own conclusion and thereby commits the fallacy of circularity. As such, it can be deemed illogical, and anyone who believes it can also be deemed illogical.
Conclusion: Christians believe in the Bible because they believe in God, and they believe in God because they believe in the Bible. This is circular reasoning and is illogical. As such, Christians are illogical.
I am going to simply counter this claim by saying that non-Christians are irrational.The little rationality that they do have they cannot account or justify without reducing themselves to irrationality. Some questions for my opponent are what does he base the laws of logic on?Why or how does identity hold through change? How does he account for the law of excluded middle? Is reality static or is it always changing? Yes, I believe that the bible is true because God says its true. However, my argument is if you reject that claim then you cannot account or justify any other claim. Thanks. |
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I would like to thank my opponent for accepting and wish him the best of luck.
My opponent’s counter argument is a red herring and is completely beside the point. Whether or not non-Christians are irrational is irrelevant to the issue at hand, which is whether or not Christians are illogical. It may very well be the case that non-Christians are irrational AND Christians are illogical, in which case the vote goes to Pro. As such, my opponent will need to address my argument.
My opponent demonstrates the circular reasoning my argument is based on: “Yes, I believe that the bible is true because God says its true.” The problem is that Christians believe what they believe about God because they have presupposed his existence when reading the Bible. Because they buy into this fallacious logic, they can safely be called illogical.
"The problem is that Christians believe what they believe about God because they have presupposed his existence when reading the Bible. Because they buy into this fallacious logic, they can safely be called illogical." My point is that you are relying on my beliefs to argue against me. Now, I noticed you ignored all of my questions that I presented. |
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To the audience: Readers and voters, I assure you that I regret what this debate has become as much as you do. I was sincerely hoping for serious, quality argumentation on this interesting topic and apologize for the disappointment. To my opponent: As I said in round two, your counter argument is off-topic and irrelevant. To demonstrate this, I will, for the purposes of this debate, concede that every single non-Christian, past and present, is utterly and hopelessly irrational as you assert and I furthermore concede that I myself am a pitiful fool of a man and am completely incapable of answering any of the questions you posed in round one. None of this, however, has anything to do with the argument I presented to you in round one. My original argument is still valid and it is still sound, and unless you can debunk it, Christians are illogical. In conclusion: To recap, I argue that Christians are illogical and my opponent argues that non-Christians are irrational. The topic of the debate is “Christians are illogical.” You do the math. VOTE PRO.
You missed the point. Like you missed all the questions I asked. Not unsual. |
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