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Christians should be pacifists (reasons for this below)

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Started: 4/1/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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TheConservative

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Thank you "qwerty15ster" for the good idea for a debate topic.

I am against the above statement and I will await my opponent to give his argument before I begin.
qwerty15ster

Pro

So, are you the same person as JlConservative? Since you have challenged me to the exact same debate, I am going to just copy paste from my first round of the earlier debate.

The whole resolution was too long to fit in the topic. So this is basically how the resolution should read.... "Based on the four gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. It is reasonable to assume that Christians should be pacifists based on how Jesus lived, and what he preached"

This is not a debate about whether god exists or not, and I would prefer that my opponent is an intelligent Christian and will argue that Christians should not be pacifists based on what Jesus taught in the four gospels. I don't care about the old testament or any of the new testament (even what Paul said) beyond the gospels. This is a debate specifically about how Jesus acted like a pacifist, and since christians are striving to be like him as their ultimate goal, they should be pacifists too. With that, I await my opponents response......
Debate Round No. 1
TheConservative

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qwerty15ster

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Wow, I feel like I have seen this somewhere before....... Thanks again to my opponent for closing his account, (or getting it closed) so this debate couldn't actually happen. Angerness!!!!
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Posted by Mangani 8 years ago
Mangani
Draxxt, you are taking the "turn the other cheek" verse out of context. In context it is not saying to be a pushover...

Furthermore, Jesus does show at least the intention or capacity for self defense when he asks his followers to bring a sword... (also taken out of context)
Posted by draxxt 8 years ago
draxxt
Excuse me, might I refer you to the "Turn the other cheek" statement in the Bible?
It does wonders for the soul!
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Posted by Mangani 8 years ago
Mangani
Pacifism isn't about self-defense, so the statement below is moot. Pacifism is about believing in and practicing the avoidance of war (in the context of this debate because it addresses Americans). Noone will claim you are a warmonger if you are slapped and you slap back, only if someone threatens to slap you and rather than trying to work it out you preemptively smack them, throw them to the ground, cut off their legs, go attack their family and smack them too...
Posted by armychick 8 years ago
armychick
the resoultion should say christians should be rational pafisist.
I'm a LD Debater and I've worked with the value of pafisist. So baiscally if a christian is getting attacked they have to take it.... thats really wrong. theres a line where you have to draw and be rational about it. so there for because of the poor debate and poor resolution i will have to vote pro.
He made more of an effort
Posted by darksage13 8 years ago
darksage13
i debate you on this to the best of my abilities
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