The Instigator
Messiah
Pro (for)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
Koopin
Con (against)
Winning
12 Points

Church's chicken is superior to KFC's chicken

Do you like this debate?NoYes+5
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 2 votes the winner is...
Koopin
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/4/2010 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 8,825 times Debate No: 11970
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (16)
Votes (2)

 

Messiah

Pro

This should be an interesting debate. =). Thanks for the round Koopin.

I affirm the topic: Church's chicken is superior to KFC's chicken. Some definitions, defined from Messiah's book of Righteousness.

Church's chicken- an unearthly food that is melt in your mouth delicious;not in fact old chicken wrapped in fried napkins

KFC's chicken- an abomination to all that is good in this world; bland

Contention 1- Church's chicken is blissful

A) Amplified by the side-dishes
One reason that church's chicken is just so melt in your mouth delicious is because it has a variety of side-dishes that are cooked to perfection. Things such as honey-biscuits, mashed potatoes drizzled in warm gravy, and french fries all put together to compliment your choice of spicy or original chicken, available in the forms of a tender, finger, or burger.

http://www.churchs.com...

B) Signature Sauces
Unlike KFC, Church's has a variety of signature sauces, such as purple pepper sauce, ranch, creamy jalepeno, BBQ, Sweet & Sour sauce (my favorite), and honey mustard.

C) Tastes Better
Church's chicken has a better taste due to love and care put into it, along with perfect spices fried to perfection.
http://www.churchs.com...

For a biref side-note I would like you to see a fan comment:

Evolet B.-
"I never tried KFC or Popeye,s chicken, anyways i dont want to!
There nothing better than Church's Chicken =)
They have drive thru n they open until 11pm.
Cajun rice yummy
Fried chickens crispy / lil oily /
Jalapeno chz bombers hoooot
Corn buttery
Biscuits delicious."

Contention 2- Church's is not only superior taste wise, but competition wise.
Due to the new, KGC (kentucky GRILLED chicken), kentucky fried chicken is now a thing of the past, overshadowed and unnoticed. Church's chicken doesn't have that, thus being superior market wise.

Thank you whoever is reading this debate. My only request of you is to vote not on your personal preferences, but who did the better debating. Thanks, and now to you Koopin.=)
Koopin

Con

==================================

Opening statement:

I would like to thank my opponent for this wonderful debate. I hope both of us, and the audience will enjoy it. I will ask, like my opponent has, that the audience vote on who they think did better in the debate, and not just who they agree with. I would also ask my opponent to keep the debate clean and fair by stay away from semantics.

===================================

Official Definitions:

Church's Chicken: Church's Chicken is a US-based chain of fast food restaurants specializing in fried chicken. The chain was founded as Church's Fried Chicken to Go by George W. Church, Sr., on April 17, 1952, in San Antonio, across the street from The Alamo. The company, with its headquarters in Sandy Springs, Georgia now has more than 1,650 locations worldwide.

KFC: KFC Corporation (KFC, founded and also known as Kentucky Fried Chicken) is a chain of fast food restaurants based in Louisville, Kentucky in the United States. KFC primarily sells chicken pieces, wraps, salads and sandwiches. While its primary focus is fried chicken, KFC also offers a line of roasted chicken products, side dishes and desserts.

Superior: Of higher grade or quality.

================================
I will start by refuting my opponents 1st contention.

My opponent claims in contention 1.A that Church's chicken is amplified by all of its side dishes. This in no way makes it better than KFC. I went on Church's Chicken website, and they claim to have eight sides. The sides are as follows:
1. Biscuits
2. Jalapeno Peppers
3. French fries
4. Corn-on-the-cob
5. Fried-Okra
6. Mashed Potatoes
7. Jalapeno Cheese bombers
8. Cole slaw

These sides are alright, but KFC has a much better selection with nine sides. KFC's sides are as follows:

1. Home-style Biscuits
2. Mashed Potatoes
3. Mac-and-Cheese
4. Cole slaw
5. Corn on the cob (Also can come in a bowl, your choice)
6. BBQ Baked beans
7. Green Beans
8. Potato wedges (Fries)
9. Seasoned Rice

Even though Church's chicken has sides (If you can call a shriveled up Jalapeno Peppers a side) KFC's sides are much higher in quality, taste, and health.

In Contention 1.B my opponent claims that Church's chicken has signature sauces, something that KFC does not have. This is wrong. KFC does in fact have plenty of sauces. They have many sauces that my opponent said such as ranch, BBQ, Honey Mustard, ect… But they also have a special sauce by the name of Colonel Sauce. It is a secret sauce that absolutely no one can crack the code to making. Many have tried, and there are a lot of mock recipes. But nothing can amount to the mouth watering signature Colonel sauce of KFC.

In Contention 1.C, my opponent claims that Church's chicken taste better than KFC. That is like saying that Chocolate ice-cream is better than strawberry ice-cream. Not that chocolate ice-cream is better, but everyone's tastes are different. Some may like KFC, some may like Church's chicken. We can not know what everyone else's choice is. All we can know is the quality of the Chickens.

------------------------------------------------

Moving to my opponents second Contention.
My opponent is wrong in so many ways for even suggesting that Church's chicken is better market wise.
First, let us look at how many Church's chickens there are world wide. Only a small 1,650 in 20 countries. KFC on the other hand has over 11,000 restaurants in more than 80 countries and territories!
KFC Also makes a whole lot more money then Church's Chicken.

--------------------------------------------------

Your fan comment by ‘Evolet B' is irrelevant to this debate, since that person has never even tried KFC.

So far, both of your contentions have been properly negated. Now I will state my argument.

--------------------------------------------------------

KFC's chicken is better to eat than Church's chicken for many reasons. Here are a few good reasons. I will break them down as I go further into my argument.

1. KFC is healthier
2. KFC is fresher
3. KFC has secret recipes, while church's just has plain fried chicken
4. KFC has more selections

1. KFC is Healthier than Church's chicken.
This is very true. KFC was one of the first fast food restaurants to make selected foods with zero trans fat. They discovered a way to make their chicken healthier than before, while still keeping their chicken nice and tasty.
Church's chicken on the other hand, is still very unhealthy, they have yet to go with the zero trans fat policy. Most of their foods are very high in calories for the small amount that you get.

2. KFC is fresher
Since the beginning KFC has made sure to serve their costumers with the highest quality of meat. They never serve any of their chicken frozen, it is always very fresh. Everything they serve to the costumer is made at the restaurant, unlike Church's chicken, who simply fries premade meals. KFC also has a promise that they do not reheat chicken. Once the chicken is made, it must be sold within a few hours or it is thrown away. This alone proves that KFC's chicken is superior to Church's chicken.

3. KFC has secret recipes, while church's just has plain fried chicken.
KFC has a special blend of 11 herbs and spices to make KFC the perfect chicken. Church's chicken on the other hand, simply has fried chicken batter, and let me add, they have so much batter it is hard to get to the flesh of the actual chicken!

4. KFC has more selections
Let us take a quick glance at Church's deserts VS KFC's deserts. Church's only desert is a fried apple pie. This is nothing compared to KFC's selection. KFC has Apple Turnover, Brownie Minis, Cafe Valley Bakery Chocolate Chip Cake, Lil' Bucket Lemon, chocolate, or strawberry Creme Parfait Cups, Strawberry Cream Cheese Pie Slices, Pecan Pie Slices, Lemon Meringue Pie Slices, Dutch Apple Pie Slices, Cookie Dough Pie Slices, Sara Lee Sweet Potato Pie Slices, Sweet Life Sugar Cookies, Sweet Life Oatmeal Raisin Cookies and Sweet Life Chocolate Chip Cookies.
KFC also has a lot of other things like chicken Parts (Spicy, crunchy, original, boneless, grilled), Strips, Filets, Popcorn chicken, Wings, Sandwiches, Wraps, Pot Pie, Bowls, Value Boxes, Salads, Sides, and many beverages. There are so many of these, I can not even name them all without reaching my character limit.

There is much more that I can say, but I have already done more than enough to prove my point. Saying that Church's chicken is superior to KFC's is an insult to your intelligents.

I again thank you for this debate, and look forward to your counter argument.

Resolution negated.

Sources:
(1). http://www.chacha.com...
(2). http://www.kfc.com...
(3). http://www.churchs.com...
(4). http://www.churchs.com...
(5). http://en.wikipedia.org...
(6). http://en.wikipedia.org...
(7). http://dictionary.reference.com...
Debate Round No. 1
Messiah

Pro

1.A

My opponent cites 9 sides to my 8 sides. That is great and all, but the number of sides does not matter. My claim that Church's chicken is "cooked to perfection" and "melt in your mouth delicious" goes unrefuted, so extend that. Also, make a note that he left it alone, so don't let him bring it up in the next round. That would be abusive to the Pro. He also states his own claim that " KFC's sides are much higher in quality, taste, and health.". This would be false since neither of us have given health statistics, he has no way to back that claim. Seeing as I go into more detail why mine is great in taste, (by saying that it is cooked to perfection and melt in your mouth delicious), and he gives no detail, we have to go with Church's chicken being better quality and more tasteful than KFC's chicken.

For a side note, I call Jalape´┐Żo Peppers more than a side, I call them heaven in the form of a vegetable.

1.B

I was wrong in the assumption that KFC had no sauces, but it still stands that Church's sauces are better. He states "ranch, BBQ, Honey Mustard, etc…", but we have to assume that's all they have (besides the colonel sauce) because he doesn't provide us the etc. Keep in my voters that he hasn't provided it now, so it would be abusive to the Pro for him to state them later in the debate. Church's sauces are better not because they have more, but because they have all of KFC's and more. (Except the colonel sauce). With more variety comes more taste. Now on the this colonel sauce my opponent speaks of.....my opponent even note's " It is a secret sauce that absolutely no one can crack the code to making. Many have tried, and there are a lot of mock recipes". This obviously means that only a select few know what is actually in this sauce. For all WE know, it could be anything from liquefied wood to pulverized kangaroo baby's. With any manner of exotic spices....beetle juice, worm vomit, etc. So not knowing what is in this sauce backs up 1) KFC could actually be serving unhealthy food. 2) This sauce, if ingredients revealed, could be any number of repulsive things. Without knowing, there is no hard evidence that this sauce is superior to Church's sauce.

1.C

What my opponent said is true, but I would like to re-emphasize an earlier point in this debate. He dropped that Church's chicken is "cooked to perfection" and "mouth watering". This is the signs of true quality.

2

Please allow to clarify my 2nd contention. No new arguments, just clarification. Due to the ever growing famous Kentucky Grilled Chicken, Kentucky Fried Chicken now has competition not amongst other restaurants, but amongst it's own business. This new form of "grilled" chicken is overshadowing the old "fried" chicken. So my point is that unlike KFC, church's chicken is fried, not grilled, thus no competition amongst itself.

The fan comment isn't there to attack your chicken, it's too speak of the quality of mine. Extend.
---------------------------------------------------------------
His case
---------------------------------------------------------------

1. If you read his source, Church's chicken provides more carbohydrates thus more energy to go burn off the calories.
2. This has no evidence to back up that 1. KFC's chicken is fresh or 2. Church's chicken isn't fresh
3. No evidence of these herbs, doesn't even list them. Just drop that. Also, note, I along with many Americans like a lot of batter.
4. We are talking about KFC chicken not deserts. Drop that. And the form of the chicken doe's not make something superior, more tasteful or better quality. Also Church's has a lot of those forms too.

What's "intellegents"? I assume you mean intelligence, and if so I apologize because I do not mean to offend anyone. I'm arguing my point.

For a side-note, but very important, since I started this debate, I made the claim that is the resolution, so as Con my opponent has to disprove it. If he doesn't give you sufficient reasons to disprove my claim, then my claim stands. So far he has not. Back to you Con. =).

Sources:
(1). http://www.chacha.com......
(2). http://www.kfc.com......
(3). http://www.churchs.com......
(4). http://www.churchs.com......
(5). http://en.wikipedia.org......
(6). http://en.wikipedia.org......
(7). http://dictionary.reference.com......
Koopin

Con

=============================

Opening Statement
I would like to thank my opponent for posting his timely response. I will start with his defense of his contentions, then his attacks on mine. I would like to point out that the things that I will say are not abuse, and I will not be dropping them. You did not set any rules to this debate. I understand if you can not properly refute my points, but just say so instead of telling me to ‘drop them.' There are still three more rounds.

============================

Argument

1.A
You say that even though KFC has more sides than church's chicken, it does not matter. But you yourself said in argument one,

"One reason that church's chicken is just so melt in your mouth delicious is because it has a VARIETY of side-dishes…"

I pointed out that KFC's chicken also had a large variety, larger than Church's chicken. I later go on to say that KFC's sides are higher in taste, quality, and health. Simply because I did not use words like ‘melt in your mouth' does not change the fact that KFC has better sides. It is the buyer's choice if they want to spend money on a few peppers, or if they want real sides like KFC.
Please give me your proof that Church's chicken is ‘cooked to perfection' and ‘melts in your mouth.' You want me to refute something that you have no evidence on? Church's chicken is indeed not cook to perfecting, or else they would be making lots more money than KFC does. Please, next time provide me with real evidence instead of simply copying and pasting my sources.

-----------------------------------------------
1.B

In 1.B you say that we have to assume that the sauces I listed are all the sauces KFC has since I put ect… This is very wrong. Ect is short for etcetera. It means the same as the phrase "and so on." KFC has many other sauces like Fiery Buffalo, Honey Barbeque, Sweet and Sour, and Colonel Butter spread. I actually do provide you with the ‘ect' in my source. I assume you failed to check it.

Again, you said that Church's has a variety of sauce, more everything that KFC has and more. That is wrong; KFC in reality has more sauces than Church's chicken. I agree with you that ‘with more variety comes more taste.'

1.C

In 1.C you say again that church's chicken is "cooked to perfection" and "mouth watering" yet you still fail to provide evidence of this. I could say the same about KFC. Can you refute that without evidence? I wait your proof.

---------------------------------------

2. KGC is popular, but is not as ‘overshadowing' as you make it. KFC still is making a whole lot more money than Church's chicken.

----------------------------------------

Moving to my points, I would like to express that I am somewhat disappointed in you just using one sentence each on my points. But, I shall continue.

1. So? What does that prove except that church's chicken has more carbs? That means it is even unhealthier. This in no way helps your point. It is absurd to think that eating Church's chicken will help you burn calories. You would need many healthier ingredients to help you burn calories. Argument extended.

2. Yes, there actually is evidence. KFC's has always claimed to be fresh, not frozen. Here is a statement from one of KFC's Cooks. You can view it in source 1.

"As a KFC cook for nearly 18 years, I've continued the Colonel's tradition of serving my customers KFC Original Recipe chicken on the bone that is delivered and prepared fresh," said cook Tiffany Bakken at the Fort Dodge, Iowa KFC.
"While other chains say they make fresh meals, I've experienced firsthand that KFC maintains the highest standards by serving fresh KFC Original Recipe chicken on the bone prepared by a trained cook in our restaurants across the country"

Church's chicken on the other hand is frozen. You can read from someone who worked there in sources two. They said.

‘The way they make their chicken is to keep the chicken' in a fridge just on the upside of freezing.'

3. You say there is no evidence of these herbs. That is why it is called secret. It has been confirmed that the secret exists however. In 2009, KFC moved in an armored truck the secret to Florida.

4. I agree we are talking about KFC fried chicken. But you seem to want to use other things such as sides to amplify the actual chicken. I have agreed to this, and also use desert to prove my point. You say that Church's chicken has deserts in many different forms. This is wrong. The only desert they have it a fried apple pie.

You have failed to defend you points properly, and you keep trying to get around the facts. You tell me to drop things because of the ‘abuse.' The real reason is because you can not refute them.

I look for to your response.

Also, please don't just copy and paste my sources, do some research of your own.

Sources:
(1). http://www.kfc.com...
(2). http://www.recipesecrets.net...
(3). http://www.kfc.com...
(4). http://www.kfc.com...
(5). http://www.churchs.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Messiah

Pro

Messiah forfeited this round.
Koopin

Con

Argument extended.
Debate Round No. 3
Messiah

Pro

Messiah forfeited this round.
Koopin

Con

I thank my opponent for this debate.

I would also like to thank the audience for reading.

Argument extended.
Debate Round No. 4
16 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by fireclaw 2 months ago
fireclaw
you noobs you can't explain why but con did a way better job
Posted by Rockylightning 4 years ago
Rockylightning
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is reaching its noodly appendage out to you. Will you reach out yours?
Posted by RaeTulo 4 years ago
RaeTulo
Actually, it doesn't.
Posted by Koopin 4 years ago
Koopin
It makes you hungry.
Posted by RaeTulo 4 years ago
RaeTulo
This makes me laugh. xD
Posted by Messiah 4 years ago
Messiah
Sorry, I was crucified
Posted by Koopin 4 years ago
Koopin
They were...Alright. I was somewhat disappointed in the lengths of the arguments against my points. But that is fine. I am working up my argument now.
Posted by Messiah 4 years ago
Messiah
Ahh. Cool. What do you think of my arguments?
Posted by Koopin 4 years ago
Koopin
Not on here. But in real life yes.
Posted by Messiah 4 years ago
Messiah
Haha, thanks but I'm just fine proving Church's chicken superiority. Also, you've debated this before?
2 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 2 records.
Vote Placed by InsertNameHere 4 years ago
InsertNameHere
MessiahKoopinTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:-Vote Checkmark-2 points
Total points awarded:06 
Vote Placed by Koopin 4 years ago
Koopin
MessiahKoopinTied
Agreed with before the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Agreed with after the debate:-Vote Checkmark-0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:-Vote Checkmark-2 points
Total points awarded:06