The Instigator
NeoConCommunist
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Losing
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The Contender
Rolyatleahcim
Con (against)
Winning
9 Points

Circular and Self-Referential Logic is both valid and awesome!

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/21/2008 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 835 times Debate No: 6299
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NeoConCommunist

Pro

Note: this really isn't intended to be a serious debate as much as a mathematical and logical joke. Apologies to anyone whose time I'm wasting.

Proposition: Circular and Self-Referential Logic is both valid and awesome.

Argument: Assume that circular and self-referential logic is valid and awesome. Therefore, this argument is valid and awesome, so we can conclude that circular and self-referential logic is valid and awesome, validating our assumption. QED.
Rolyatleahcim

Con

What is the opposite of the opposite?
I have taken this debate on for two reasons;
1) Possibility arises from the possibility of possibility it self.
2) The meaning of meaning is meaning it self.

Any apologies due should be for apologizing.

Your argument includes assuming that circular and self-referential logic is valid and awesome.
Well we can assume that circular and self-referential logic is valid and awesome and that its valid and awesome that its valid and awesome all day long. But in order for your argument to be on point, assumption must be valid and awesome. It is not.
You must have assumed peoples assumption was that assuming is valid and awesome.
Assuming is not valid and awesome. Assuming is assuming.

I assert that my argument disproves your argument, and in doing so disproves my argument disproving your argument. Luckily for me we are voting on your argument.

Facts ignore being ignored.
You lose because I win.

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I suspect suspicion...
You should consider validating validation and examining your examination.
Thank you for letting me complicate complication.

Who wants freedom? from freedom?
Debate Round No. 1
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Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 8 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
>> "You lose because I win."

This makes me giggle inside - according to the resolution, which pro must accept, this is a valid and irrefutable argument. Con FTW.
Posted by wjmelements 8 years ago
wjmelements
I did get some humor out of this.
Posted by NeoConCommunist 8 years ago
NeoConCommunist
I apologize for apologizing
Posted by dvhoose 8 years ago
dvhoose
..and there they are

BREAKDOWN OF VOTES
1) Agree before? TIE
2) Agree after? CON
3) Conduct? TIE
4) Spelling and grammar? TIE
5) Convincing arguments? CON
6) Reliable sources? TIE

PRO- Interesting topic

CON- Nice loophole, however you contradicted yourself, which technically rendered your argument false... which leads me to

BOTH- Great debate! PRO, I'd make the debate last more than one round. I'm not going to bring my own logic into a round, I'm only going to vote on the debate. Since you didn't state that your opponent contradicted themselves, I have to, as a voter, ignore that fact...

All in all a great debate, highly imaginative and a great stance taken by both sides
Posted by dvhoose 8 years ago
dvhoose
nice :)

I wanna see the arguments against this...
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