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Classical Liberalism is More Effective Than Conservativsm

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Started: 10/11/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Round 1: Acceptance
Round 2: Introduce and Expand on Arguments
Round 3: Rebuttals
Round 4: Counter-rebuttals/Conclusions

NOTE: I am arguing for the more general Classical Liberalism, not the version specific only to the United States.

My definitions of both worldviews are as follows:

Liberalism- a political worldview founded on liberty and equality, usually supporting civil and human rights, private property, and a free market

Conservatism- a political worldview advocating traditional and existing social institutions, usually supporting tradition, customary values, and social conformity

Please be respectful and do not use offensive language or a personally insulting tone.

Good luck to my opponent.


I accept.
Debate Round No. 1


Here are my fundamental premises/arguments:

1. The effectiveness of a political philosophy can be measured by the quality of life that a government employing that philosophy can provide it's citizens.

2. A government founded on liberal ideology, which supports civil liberties and limited government to protect the right of the individual, is more likely to be less restrictive on the activities of it's citizens, thereby allowing them more personal freedom. A conservative government will be more inclined to restrictive policies, as it is likely to support conformity and traditional values, which are often in conflict with personal freedom. A prime example of this is the ultra-conservative Islamic government of Saudi Arabia, in which Sharia law places immense restrictions on personal freedom.

3. My final and most important premise is based on the Darwinian principal that those who are the most adapted possess the best chance of survival (in this context, success). Conservative states, whose philosophy is inherently opposed to change, reform, and adaptation, will eventually fall behind more liberal nations whose policies will be tailored to suit modern society. The only constant in our world is change, and only those who can adapt to it will succeed. Conservatism is naturally in opposition to adaptation (it's defining principal is aversion to change), no matter how beneficial and rational that adaptation may be.


My opponent has not used any sources to back up what he has said, keep that in mind, voters.

Religious Liberties.

Humanity enjoys taking a part in faith, or religion. Valuing religion, is important, and a key belief to support a strong foundation for human rights. A free exercise in a religion, is what makes people moral, and confident in their everyday life. The picture that I have posted above, basically sums the rest of it up. The government, cannot tell citizens of the U.S. who to believe in, or why their God is 'wrong'.

The Military.
The defense of a nation, is very important. By increasing the military budget, the safety of a nation, and its citizens, will. increase. A country with a well-funded military, can help advancement in technology, or other important researches. During Ronald Reagan's presidency, the military budget went up by 43%, this helped with more troops, weapons, equipment, and a better intelligence program.

The Economy.
One big issue all over the world, is the economies of nations. A big economy, can help a long-term growth of a nation. A smaller economy, can keep a country in the dark for ages. Capitalism will bring long-term economic growth to any country. Another great idea that will help businesses, and an economy, is the cut of corporate taxes. A cut in corporate taxes will lead to better living standards, long-term economic growth, higher wages, lower tax burdens, lower corporate debt, and increase productivity, entrepreneurship, and investment.
There are other things that can be cut, helping the economy of a nation. One, would be welfare. Cutting welfare out of the government spending can cause an immense increase in the growth of an economy. Lower job taxes, will help the homeless/poor people get back on their feet. At this stage, welfare is smaller, corporate taxes are smaller, and job taxes are smaller. This would help increase jobs, increase growth of the economy, and help businesses.


Debate Round No. 2


To clarify your earlier statement about my lack of sources, I am basing my arguments on logical reasoning. However, to avoid further conflict, I will cite sources for the remainder of the debate.

Here are my rebuttals to your arguments:

1. The concept of freedom of religion is a liberal one. In fact, liberalism was the first political worldview to advocate religious freedom. The only requirement is that members of ALL religions are afforded the same rights.

2. Conservatism as a political philosophy does not necessarily entail an increase in military budget. In fact, it does not focus on any single political issue. Rather, conservatism is a political worldview advocating tradition and existing social institutions. Ronald Reagan, though he is undoubtedly an excellent example of a conservative leader, does not represent all of conservatism.

3. A conservative government does not necessarily mean a big economy, just as a liberal government does not mean increased welfare spending and taxation for corporations. Through liberalism places a high value on equality, it also advocates limited governments and individual rights.


Religious Freedom Rebuttal
There is a religious conservatism, to say that religious freedom is liberal ideology, would be a lie. Wikipedia says "
Religious conservatives principally seek to apply the teachings of particular religions to politics, sometimes by merely proclaiming the value of those teachings, at other times by having those teachings influence laws."; . Conservatives also support individual freedom, that individual freedom, is also religious beliefs. The government should not interfere with religious freedom, is another thing related to this topic. Now you know that it doesn't just apply to liberal ideology.

The Military Rebuttal.
What does trade, tradition, and social institutions have to do with this topic? Your rebuttal only mentions military budget once. I also explained about the advancement in technology in the military debate, some of the lesser form of the military technology could be sold to the public, or a foregin ally. which means an increase in trade. Many conservatives are in favor of keeping a well-maintained military budget.

The Economy Rebuttal.
Business is what makes capitalism run, and a big economy is beneficial, so many are in favor of that. Conservatives are the ones who support a limited government. Liberals support the idea that the people need to be dependent on the government. Conservatives (like I said) support individual freedom.


Debate Round No. 3


EthanSaldanha forfeited this round.


My opponent has forfeit the last round, I cannot make any rebuttal.
Thank you voters for reading this debate.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by a_mysterious_stranger 2 years ago
I apologize for the smaller font in 'religious liberties'. I don't know why it did that, it looked normal in the review.
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