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Communism can never work

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Started: 10/1/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Saberen

Con

I feel confident defending the legitimacy of communism and Marxism in general.

Communism- A STATELESS, classless, moneyless society where the means of production are socially owned.
mikekremer

Pro

It is by far the best kind of government there is. There can be no argument there. The issue is not with the government, but with the people. If you want to have it without money, without privilege, without power, why would anyone choose to do the difficult jobs. They are tough, taxing, and can result in early death. Yes, you might get more labor hours out of your work, but there are always easier jobs to do. Also, our world would never advance in skills, technology, and practices because our government structure wouldn't have you benefit from it. Example: Marxist believes are you get paid based on the hour it would take them to create their product if an average man would do it. Obviously, the more skilled you are with your product, the more "money" you receive. So forth, it is not necessary for you to invent an easier way to preform your skill because that will just lower the need for your skills and your "payment". Overall, its a great idea, but as humans, we could never actually use this system of government.
Debate Round No. 1
Saberen

Con

You are forgetting the stateless part of communism that I clearly stated in the definition.

"It is by far the best kind of government there is. There can be no argument there. The issue is not with the government, but with the people. If you want to have it without money, without privilege, without power, why would anyone choose to do the difficult jobs. They are tough, taxing, and can result in early death. Yes, you might get more labor hours out of your work, but there are always easier jobs to do."

Money doesn't exist in communism. People aren't paid in communism at all. Wage labour is abolished and the necessity of wages in capitalism would be abolished as well. People would get what they need from the commune.

I really don't understand the rest of your argument. It appears to be a massive strawman. Please do research on what communism is or utilise the definition I have provided.
mikekremer

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Debate Round No. 2
Saberen

Con

If my opponent does not respond i will claim victory.
mikekremer

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
Saberen

Con

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mikekremer

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Saberen 1 year ago
Saberen
+Slanery Debate me.
Posted by Slanery 1 year ago
Slanery
+Saberen every time a country goes communist and one guy takes over,
everyone else begins to hate him over time because he's just too powerful and scary

and he begins to kill his own people off because they get on his case and try to remove him from his status

later on he loses the fight
It's always been that way and it will always be that way
communist countries will collapse no matter what
Posted by Josh_debate 1 year ago
Josh_debate
+Saberen Can you name one successful communist country?
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