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Communism is the superior system.

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Started: 5/31/2015 Category: Politics
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Communism is the system which allows the greatest amount of people to experience the life that they should have-not the one that corporations want them to have. That is the truth of the matter. This isn't an argument between the "free" ideologies(capitalism) and the hateful ones(communism). It is an argument between the fair and equal system(communism) and the blatantly unjust one(capitalism).


Communism, the political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society. Communism is thus a form of socialism—a higher and more advanced form, according to its advocates. Exactly how communism differs from socialism has long been a matter of debate, but the distinction rests largely on the communists’ adherence to the revolutionary socialism of Karl Marx.- says that 58.2% of the world's population is democratic.

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Debate Round No. 1


Frankly,I am confused by what you said. I believe that your first paragraph is to set a definition for Communism. It is my fault entirely that this responsibility has been forced upon you. Regardless,I think that Encyclopaedia Britannica definition is fine or good enough for us. I do not believe whoever that Marxism is the singular definition of Communism,so let's refrain from only using Marxism we wish to change it(the definition),let's do that in the comments.
The second sentence is a whole different story. Do you wish to imply something about democracy and Communism? Please clarify. I will go straight ahead and address this point because it would turn up here regardless of of that sentences meaning. When proving this point,"that Communism is undemocratic" they generally use one of two examples. 1)The USSR or 2) Cuba. This is a blatant straw man fallacy. Saying the USSR or Cuba is Communist of Socialist simply because they call themselves that is compared to calling a six year old a unicorn because they said they were. Thus the whole idea of "Since the USSR did it,it is Communist" is lacking to say the least.
In addition,Communism as protecting Democracy. Let's set up two societies. Society A is a Capitalist one. Society B is a Communist one. Let's focus on two people in the same situation. Person A is poor and works as a vote counter in Society A. Person B works as a vote counter in Society B. Where is the threat to democracy? It stems from the fact that Person A can be more easily bribed thus curtailing Democracy in that community. They can be manipulated because of the currency and the rise in social and economic status that a certain figure might give in exchange for them "miscounting". This isn't to say that Communism is not corruptible;but Capitalism is more easily.
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My sentences before have pointed out the 1) definition of Communism 2) An intro to Karl Marx revolution and 3) a quick fact that 58.2% of the world population is democratic. Communism doesn't cherish hard work, creativity, destroy the environment, it isn't envovled with reality and (off the topic) Communism itself has cost the lives of at least 85 million people in the world.-

Comunism is dangerous and concluding in my last points, it is a devistatingly hard atmosphere to accomplish anything. Compared to a democratic government with free health care, homeless shelters and other help; communistic countries aren't so. When you study anthropology, inevitably it leads to you trying to understand politics. This is because anthropology is the science of humanity in all it’s forms, from our physical evolution to the dynamics of our differences in organized societies. And like most other academic fields it has it’s own jargon, it’s own terminology, it’s own memes and benchmarks. Outsiders, particularly those used to stuffy, arrogant academics, tend to view it as just another liberal enclave designed to justify their policies. After all, Marx is required reading in many of these courses, and the faculty is composed of hardcore leftists.

Well, the thing is that all knowledge is a two-edged sword. The knowledge of atomic power can lead to massive amounts of power for a society and grant it prosperity, or it can be used for weapons of mass destruction and cause, well, destruction. Despite the Leftist bent of anthropology, despite the long line of Marxist anthropologists, when you strip away the political bias you are left with a simple but useful diagnostic tool that can be used by anyone.

So I’m going to share the simplest but most powerful academic argument you can make against a Leftist. True, they’re pretty much reduced to shouting nowadays to get their way, but that smug self-satisfaction the elites carry with them is a result of them thinking they are so much better educated, so much smarter than everyone else. Occam’s Razor (another intellectual argument you can make) holds that the simplest answer is usually the best one. And the best part of this argument is that it’s derived from a Leftist’s own meticulous study with the bias stripped away.

The French Marxist anthropologist/sociologist Pierre Bourdieu theorized that economic capital was not the only source of power in a society. He defined capital in many forms. Symbolic capital the power symbols hold for us, cultural capital the power of knowledge, political capital the power to change people’s minds, and so on. However, at the root of society is economic power. Without it, nothing else is possible. So money is, for the purposes of this argument, power.

“The Argument”

Money is power. If the government produces all the means for getting money or buying things, then it has all the power. It doesn’t matter what the law says, because that’s just a means of managing power in a society and it only works when there is incentive by those with power to do so–That is, checks and balances. In a society where the government has all the power, it has no incentive to check it’s own power, so the only means of the citizens getting change in their favor is for either their rulers to be benevolent, or outright revolution.

Capitalism allows for power to be distributed and for those checks and balances via laws to work, and it provides the means for regular citizens to gain power by converting it into cultural, symbolic, political or other forms of capital, which can get you more economic capital and so on. Laws and constitutions only work so long as the citizenry has both the means and the will to ensure that power is distributed and those with great power are kept in check, just as the Constitution was intended to do.

Several of these entries are related, and the absence of citizens’ rights is at the heart of more than one. In keeping with the last entry, Marx advocated ten rules in his Communist Manifesto for the forced redistribution of all land and property for the good of the national community.R32;R32; This is theft, from the citizens’ point of view. They are forced to join the new Communist government—whether they like it or not. This, of course, must be done with a “might is right” frame of mind: lots of men with guns show up and take everything you have “for the glory of the motherland,” as the Soviets might have said.R32;R32;

For a clearer definition is so I believe and an understanding of Marx for Communism please regard the next few paragraphs. Communism is a theory and system of social and political organization that dominated much of the history of the 20th century. In theory, communism is a classless society in which all property is owned by the community as a whole and where all people enjoy equal social and economic status. As a political movement, communism sought to overthrow capitalism through a workersA533; revolution and redistribute the wealth in the hands of the proletariat, or working class.

Marxists believe that just as society has evolved from feudalism to capitalism, it will evolve into socialism and eventually communism.

Early Communism Communist ideas have existed since ancient times. Primitive humans, living in tribes, worked for the benefit of their entire clan and shared the fruits of their labor.

Many western intellectuals have advocated Communist ideas. In his 4th-century BC work The Republic, the Greek philosopher Plato proposed the communal ownership of property by an intellectual ruling class, to put the welfare of the state above personal desire and moderate the greed of the producing classes.

In 1534 John of Leyden turned the city of Munster into a commune called "New Jerusalem" in expectation of the Second Coming and introduced polygamy (going partway towards Plato's ideal) before the city was taken by a Catholic army, leading to a massacre. Thomas More's Utopia was organized on communistic lines.

The idea floated around during the Enlightenment, exerting varying amounts of influence on the philosophes. The greatest amount was on Rousseau, who was to have the greatest influence on the French Revolution.

Many 19th Century idealists, disgusted by the ongoing oppression and decadence created by the Industrial Revolution, broke away from society to form communal utopias-although most were short-lived. An example was Robert Owen[?]'s New Harmony[?] community in Indiana.

The Ideas of Marx and Engels The ideas of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, epitomized by their Communist Manifesto, transformed communism into a revolutionary movement. Marx and Engels claimed Communism did not have to occur in isolated communities, but globally. According to the Manifesto all history can be explained in terms of class struggles. In each society, a minority of people owned or controlled the means of production, consituting the ruling class. The vast majority of people owned and controlled very little.

At the current stage of capitalism the dominant bourgeoisie (or capitalists who controlled the means of production) exploited and oppressed the proletariat (or industrial workers) by paying low wages while keeping the profits to themselves. In other words, workers were compelled to labor not merely to meet their own needs but also those of the exploiting ruling class. Marx thought it was only a matter of time before the working classes of the world, realizing their common goals, would unite to overthrow the capitalists and redistribute the wealth. The establishment of communism would be the inevitable outcome of a historical process.

According to Marx, capitalism would evolve into socialism then eventually to communism. Marx specified a transitional period in which the workers would form a socialist society. A temporary dictatorship of the proletariat, would be needed to seize property from the bourgeoisie minority.

Communist Countries and Governments Communism is sometimes also used to mean, particularly in capitalist nations, a totalitarian regime run by the Communist Party where central planning[?] is employed as a means of production and distribution. Because totalitarian regimes of this nature have often committed human rights abuses of varying degrees, some regard this idea of Communism as a dangerous ideology, similar to fascism or nazism.

Marxists dispute this usage, reserving the term communism only for the final evolutionary stage of society (see socialism). In Marxism, communism refers to the ideal stateless, propertyless, and classless society with no oppression or exploitation and general abundance and freedom. Society runs in accord with the principle: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Many nations in the 20th century were run by such Communist Parties, who identified themselves as true communists implementing socialism, and attempted to govern themselves accoring to their interpretation of Marxist principles. The following is a list of countries that have had self-proclaimed socialist republics:

  • Soviet Union
  • Afghanistan
  • People's Republic of China
  • Vietnam
  • Laos
  • Cambodia
  • Cuba
  • Ethiopia
  • North Korea

Communism isn't what you thought it was.


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Posted by 2ninjacat 2 years ago
Ha ha, that's okay. I have never debated a topic like this... I hope I go ok. Good luck!
Posted by thatanarchist 2 years ago
Thank you for joining this debate. I hope this will be a valuable experience for both of us.
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