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Luxray2854
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FanboyMctroll
Con (against)

Competitive video games are a sport.

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Started: 7/27/2017 Category: Technology
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Luxray2854

Pro

Hey, hope you accept my challenge, you seem to have strong opinions on the subject matter so I'd like to see your reasoning. By accepting you agree that-

We're only talking about competitive gaming, where it's people against each other competing. Notable examples of competitive games are League Of Legends, CSGO, Starcraft, and Dota 2.

The definition for sport will be: "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc." (1)

If you do not accept either of the stipulations, say so in the comments. If you do accept both, please write your first round debate. Thank you.

(1)- http://www.dictionary.com...
FanboyMctroll

Con

As the definition for sports goes, with comparing that to video games, there is no physical exertion or activity during video gaming other then the movement of your eyes and the clicking of the mouse with your finger.

This definitely does not constitute exercise or any type of sport. A 350 lbs person could be clicking buttons on the keyboard or mouse, but that is not a sport. In sport athletes need to stay in shape for physical endurance not drink Red Bull to stay awake to stare at a screen.

Video games being a sport is like calling Chess playing a sport, it's not a sport, it's an activity like air hockey or lawn bowling. In video games players just play competitively against each other on a screen, in a digital world, we are not even talking about the real world. That would be like saying, watching tv competitively is a sport. Lets see how many Netflix shows you can binge watch in 36 hours.
Debate Round No. 1
Luxray2854

Pro

Thank you for the response. I'll go straight into the rebuttals now.

(1)
"As the definition for sports goes, with comparing that to video games, there is no physical exertion or activity during video gaming other then the movement of your eyes and the clicking of the mouse with your finger."

Con's main issue here seems to be that there's no physical exertion in video games. He fails to realize that in the definition I provided, and he accepted, nothing is said about physical exertion being necessary. Perhaps you're referring to where it says athletic activity? If so, let's define athletic-

"of or relating to athletes; involving the use of physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina:" [1]

Being able to make precise movements with your mouse in incredible speeds is most definitely a physical skill. Video games also require a level of stamina, as certain competitive matches can last hours. Hours of mice rapid mice movement can easily strain hands, and physical injuries in video games are very common. An example of a long match is the 2 hour and 43 minute CSGO match [2] that happened in April of 2015 [3]. One map taking that long requires physical stamina, and mental stamina too.

However, perhaps you're referring to the part of the definition where it says "skill or physical prowess", namely the physical prowess part. If you are referring to that, you need to note the "or" in the definition. Video games 100% do take quite a bit of skill.

(2)
"This definitely does not constitute exercise or any type of sport. A 350 lbs person could be clicking buttons on the keyboard or mouse, but that is not a sport. In sport athletes need to stay in shape for physical endurance not drink Red Bull to stay awake to stare at a screen."

Con again fails to prove that competitive video games don't fit the definition provided for "sport". This doesn't need to be rebuttaled, as it doesn't help his case at all. Lastly, I do agree that clicking buttons on your keyboard or mouse shouldn't be considered a sport, but you have to understand, that's not what we're arguing. We're talking about competitive gaming, not just clicking buttons. They're two very different things.

(3)
"Video games being a sport is like calling Chess playing a sport, it's not a sport, it's an activity like air hockey or lawn bowling."

Con uses an unproved assertion of facts right here. Simply saying "it's not a sport", doesn't mean video games aren't a sport, you need to prove what you're saying.

(4)
"In video games players just play competitively against each other on a screen, in a digital world, we are not even talking about the real world."

No where in the definition does it say that sports need to be in "the real world". This statement does nothing to help your case.

(5)
"That would be like saying, watching tv competitively is a sport. Lets see how many Netflix shows you can binge watch in 36 hours."

Con again uses an analogy to try to prove his point, instead of using objective facts. Again, you need to realize that we aren't talking about competitive T.V. watching. We're debating over whether or not competitive video games fit the definition of sport.

To summarize:
Con uses a lot of unproved assertion of opinion, instead of using sources and facts. As a reminder to Con, in this debate you must prove that competitive video games do not fit the definition of sport (that I provided in the first round).

Thank you

[1]- http://www.dictionary.com...
[2]- http://www.ibtimes.co.uk...
[3]- https://www.hltv.org...
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