Conservatives are better than the Lib Dems
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| First off the Lib Dems are lazy: they can't even be bothered to make their web address their full name: libdems.org.uk
Well, by that logic, so are you. You can't even be bothered to use their full name in the motion or in the arguments. Lib Dems is an acceptable shortening of the term - and the longer version opens itself to many typo possibilities. Hardly anyone, except when being formal, ever uses the full length. Besides, when's the last time you heard someone say "United Kingdom Independence Party" as opposed to just UKIP?
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My second point is that the Liberal Democrats' main promise was to bring electoral reform, unless i've been living in a parallel universe for the last five years that hasn't happened. The Conservatives however brought the economy back from the ruins of Labour and limited immigration from when Labour said "Hey we love all of you, come live in Britain.
| Are you seriously comparing the United Kingdom Independence Party to the Liberal Democrats.
I am in the sense that both use abbreviations in website names, and more people use the abbreviations than the full term itself.
| Liberal Democrats are supposed to be serious, not like the United Kingdom Independence Party who are frankly a joke.
Unsupported assertion/opinion. UKIP, to Nigel Farage, at least, is not a joke, and happens to be the most influention position he's held in his life. Unless, of course, Farage thinks that a joke is still funny even if the punchline is delayed by 22 years.
| Liberal Democrats' main promise was to bring electoral reform, unless i've been living in a parallel universe for the last five years that hasn't happened
You haven't. And yes, electoral reform has not happened so far, but that is because Nick Clegg hasn't been Prime Minister so far. Maybe he has in your parallel universe, but as far as I know, David Cameron is the current PM. It's like asking the Green party why they haven't yet created a "a just, equitable and sustainable society" (ref 1). They just haven't been in a position to get it into practice yet. Natalie Bennett isn't Prime Minister yet either.
Neither the Lib Dems nor the Greens (read: Green Party of England and Wales) have been in a position to introduce such a measure. Electoral reform would create representation in Parliament similar to the current polling - 30-ish% for the Conservatives. The Conservatives would have to pass the bill, and they'd rather have a 40% standing than a 30% one. Obviously, they wouldn't let it through.
The Conservatives, to improve their own standing in the House of Commons, have made sure that truly proportional voting will not happen.
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I extend my arguments (again) due to forfeiture. Vote Con.
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