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PapaSepe
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BigDLando
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Courts have the responsibility to create racially balanced schools.

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Started: 5/23/2013 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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PapaSepe

Pro

Affirmative assertions 1: Courts can step in if school committees can not come up with a fair solution. Boston schools could not come up with a plan so it went to the courts.

Affirmative assertions 2: School committees could not come properly desegregate the children. Courts had allowed children from other neighborhoods to go to different schools in other neighborhood.

Affirmative assertions 3: Schools did not know how to transport kids from other neighborhoods to different schools in other neighborhoods. Courts ruled school committees had to have students bussed to their schools they went to.
BigDLando

Con

Assertion #1
In 1974, court-ordered busing was not the only strategy that could have desegregated Boston"s public schools.
"The violence that came with it
"The education was still unfair
"Parents didn"t have a say in what happened
Assertion #2
Students and society don"t benefit when more children are able to attend racially integrated schools.
"6th graders that took surveys could have lied
"Only focuses on Black and Latino students
"Kids still have separated groups in diverse school
Assertion #3
Race should not be used as a basis for school assignment.
"Desegregation does not speak to dropout rates that hover near 50% for Blacks/Hispanics
"70% of black students attend schools where nearly 2/3 of students are Black/Hispanic
"Any policy based on race is a violation of every child"s 14th amendment right to be treated as an individual
Debate Round No. 1
PapaSepe

Pro

1: How can we balance out the nationality's in racially imbalanced schools?
#3: How can judges provide safer schools for black and Hispanic students arriving in predominately white schools?
#2: Can courts provide equal education for Black and Hispanic students coming to predominately white schools?
BigDLando

Con

BigDLando forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
PapaSepe

Pro

# 1: Schools can balance out racially imbalanced schools by desegregating white and colored schools by migrating them together so you can have an equal racial mix.
# 3: Judges can provide safer schools for colored students by having police in schools and by protecting the buses when they drop off the students from other neighborhoods.
# 2: Courts can move some white teachers to the old colored schools and colored teachers to the old white schools to provide equal education for all students and to try and limit racism.
BigDLando

Con

ROUND #2
Question #1: can you rephrase your first assertion?
Question #2: do you think the courts gave the school committees enough time to handle the situation themselves?
Question #3: do you think schools should be forced to be more diverse even if parents and students don't care?
Debate Round No. 3
PapaSepe

Pro

Education was unfair because white and colored students were going to the same schools being taught by the same teachers.
The 6th graders could have lied but nobody"s has proven that they actually lied.
Separate groups in schools are all about who the children hang out with. You cannot desegregate friends.
We use races for school assignments now.
BigDLando

Con

Round #3
Answer to question 1: Let the parents choose where their kids go and if the schools don"t balance out than let it be.
Answer to question 2: Why do judges need to make schools safer for blacks and Hispanics?
Answer to question 3: The only way education would be unequal is if Hispanics and blacks were put into different classrooms. If they were placed in the same classrooms as white students then the education would be the same.
Round #4
Courts should step in only if school committees take a long time to get the job done.
Courts didn"t just allow black and Hispanic students to go to white schools; they forced them even if they didn"t want to.
I don"t know how to rebuttal the last one.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by jgeller 3 years ago
jgeller
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