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demonlord343
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GodChoosesLife
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Creation vs Abiogenesis

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GodChoosesLife
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/17/2014 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
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demonlord343

Pro

Hello, and welcome to my debate with GodChoosesLife in Creation vs Abiogenesis.

1st round: Accepting/ Stating claim
2nd round: Arguments ONLY
3rd and 4th round: Arguments/Rebuttals
5th round: Final Rebuttals and Conclusion

My claim: Abiogenesis is a more probable model for the origin of life than Creation model.

Rules:
1: Don't break the rules.
2: Use sources if you can.
3: DO NOT BREAK THE RULES.

GodChoosesLife

Con

I accept this challege.

Claim: Creation is the ONLY way of life being existent.

(best wishes to my opponent!)
Debate Round No. 1
demonlord343

Pro

demonlord343 forfeited this round.
GodChoosesLife

Con

To be fair, let's extend. Hope all is well and best wishes!
Debate Round No. 2
demonlord343

Pro

demonlord343 forfeited this round.
GodChoosesLife

Con

Guess my opponent is unable to make it so I'll keep holding off.
Debate Round No. 3
demonlord343

Pro

Umm i sincerely apologize to GodchoosesLife..

I am sorry that i was not able to respond. For the sake of the debate, its too late, so imma cancel.

Give points to Con.

Peanut Butter!
GodChoosesLife

Con

It is perfectly fine. :)
No worries.

No Vote please! Keep this debate at a NO VOTE! To be fair!
Thank you.
Debate Round No. 4
demonlord343

Pro

Fine, fine, fine... kill the jellies.. kil the jellies.. kill the jellies!! mwahahahahaha!!!

(Vote nothing. tie tie tie tie tie tie or vote con con con con con con con con)


GodChoosesLife

Con

No vote!!! -.-
Don't test me now.... Hahaha!!!
Hope everything's okay with you though bud!! :)
Cya!
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Sagey 2 years ago
Sagey
The Universe is not fine tuned for life, that concept is a myth.

It's life that has adapted itself to exist in an uncaring universe that is the real truth.
Posted by Sagey 2 years ago
Sagey
I'm on the side of Abiogenesis.

Because now they believe that life can form in many environments unaided, because The Universe Is Not Tuned For Life, but, rather, Life Has Adapted Itself As A Necessity Within The Universe.

So there is extremely likely to be life on many planets, starting under many environments.

Abiogenesis is bound to occur, whenever and wherever possible.
Posted by demonlord343 2 years ago
demonlord343
Dang dude, would you rather debate? lol
Posted by GodChoosesLife 2 years ago
GodChoosesLife
Ummm???
Posted by Sagey 2 years ago
Sagey
The Deist god of Thomas Paine and Jefferson, who helped pen the Constitution is a better choice, it just started everything and doesn't bother even trying to communicate with humans and those on the possibly many other planets it also started life on.

I think this view of Creationism is harder to beat than anybody who tries to Assert the Bible God, which is too Narcissistic to be a real Divine being.
Posted by Sagey 2 years ago
Sagey
Though a word of advice for anybody wanting to support Creationism in a debate: Leave the Bible alone, it is too ludicrous and contradicts itself too much to support any Creation argument.
Better off considering a universal God that is not specific to any religion.
Posted by Sagey 2 years ago
Sagey
Though even with such Scientific insight, there is still a big jump to such self-assembly of proteins, nucleotides and genetic material.
Creation also has a big credibility gap to hurdle.

Though many Creationists claim Evolution is flawed because Abiogenesis has no proof, but they deliberately ignore that fact that Evolution only deals with already living organisms and Abiogenesis is not included in Evolutionary theory.
If Abiogenesis ever gets proven and is confirmed by extreme and Extensive testing, then, someday it may get incorporated into Evolutionary Theory, but, until such a time, it is a completely Exclusive study.
Posted by Sagey 2 years ago
Sagey
Though it is interesting how they theorize that the first cell walls were composed of oil droplets or film, which ties in withe the chemical composition of some cell walls in the present day.
Cell walls do not need to be complex:
http://lofi.forum.physorg.com...
http://www.academia.edu...
And a good answer from Cal King.
Posted by GodChoosesLife 2 years ago
GodChoosesLife
um, ok? lol
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Vote Placed by TheUser 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession.