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Dr_lillo
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"Culture of fear isn't the best way to ensure implicit obedience "

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Started: 7/16/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Dr_lillo

Pro

Culture of fear and obedience

Leading member of the Nazi Party explains how people can be made fearful and to support a war they otherwise would oppose: This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works in every country.

Although huge empires were made by this concept, this is not the best way to get complete control on people.

It is easy to be implemented, has a rapid impact, contagious, learned not earned, however it annihilates self-confidence, lead to serious life-threatening feeling , sense of isolation, boosts ignorance ,and makes automatic behaviour living standard.

As a matter of fact, the dependable regime more prone to be collapsed and be short lived.
SoSmart

Con

Pro brings up some interesting points. That's all they are, interesting. They argue nothing and prove nothing.

Pro's entire case is, in essence, that culture of fear does some unpleasant things so somehow the resolution is true... No, I'm sorry Pro but this isn't the way a debate works.

Pro concedes that huge empires were built upon the concept of 'culture of fear' but Pro actually fails to point out that all successful civilisations began under such a regime until things settled down and the obedience was held for long enough for a police force to form and then the 'cops' could be the bad guys the criminals and disobedient rascals dealt with rather than the leaders themselves.

Obedience is only possible through fear in the first place. If I say 'do this' and you do it, it is because you fear that not doing it bears more consequences for you than doing it. Whether you fear this due to rational thought or simply because I'm going to beat you with a stick if you don't do it, it does the job of making you obey.

The term 'implicit' means 'within' so to speak. A culture of fear has obedience within its very structure and is the best way of doing so simply because there is no alternative that has ever worked as efficiently as implicitly ensuring obedience without any further precautions or laws. The culture of fear creates an atmosphere whereby one doe snot just fear those in power or those holding the batons with which to beat them but their very on family and friends who may turn on them and snitch at any moment for fear of themselves being dragged down with them. It is systematically flawless in ensuring that everyone genuinely fears disobeying the authority because everything beneath the authority becomes de facto sided with it in an active sense.
Debate Round No. 1
Dr_lillo

Pro

First of all It 's simple to say the same that your debate prove nothing also, so please respect the rules of debate and try to abandon pointless criticism.

As you mention these " unpleasant things " are the points which defend my argument.
also, who are you to show me how debate works except 102 year old man " according to ur profile" who missed some details.

Anyway, lets go for debate.

I am talking here about autocratic empires which cultivate fear in people So people will be obligated to give their consent to Cold War policies, to hot wars, to the complete militarisation of society. that is why i stated in my argument the opinion of leading member of Nazi party. to show my orientation towards (fear method as away to control people).

"Obedience may only possible through fear " that the rule how to control animal or child or social anomaly.
the rational way is always the "best" way to get absolute obedience .that is why religions persist till nowadays. but if you control some one with stick,believe me once this stick is broken you will get insurgence. (180 degree immediate change).
so i believe it will not be logic that the fear culture is the best way but it is easy to be implemented, has a rapid impact ,.. as i said in Round 1

there are big difference between conditional obedience and implicit obedience. also precautions and laws are done for commitment not to obligate people to be obedient . that is why when corrupted autocratic regime with ruthless use of military and police power collapsed , people will turn against regime in frenzy manner.

so i conclude that the rational way is the best way to get obedience under precautions and laws to be the boundary of beautiful art against social anomalies.
SoSmart

Con

SoSmart forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Dr_lillo

Pro

Unfortunately, Con forfeited Round 2. May he want to limit the debate for round 3 ,and this mean that his argument is weak and lack the logicalness. or he just forfeited the debate.

Anyway, i still stand on my argument.
SoSmart

Con

SoSmart forfeited this round.
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