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khoury112
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Ghostmalid123
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Current Naruto (End Of Series) is stronger than Current Luffy (Dressrosa)

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Ghostmalid123
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/30/2015 Category: TV
Updated: 11 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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khoury112

Pro

My Points:
1) Naruto is faster
2) Naruto is more destructive
3) Naruto has more stamina

Naruto has been show on numerous occasions to be extremely fast, especially when he is in Gear 2nd however Naruto is faster. He in 9 tails chakra mode (before he got the SO6P power and full kyuubi mode) moved so fast that killer bee thought he was teleporting, he also dodged an attack from the raikage who was moving at the speed of lightning. Luffy may have stated lasers were too slow however naruto dodged chakra blast from toneri with ease who fired them at light pace.

Naruto has multiple techniques that can devastate the terrain. Naruto big ball rasengan before any of his power ups could have destroyed an entire mountain. Luffy has destroyed a buildings,and punches someone through bedrock, which is the only displays of "destruction"

Naruto's stamina is directly above naruto and everyone's else. Naurto has high stamina alone but with the kyuubi and SO6P his reserves are exponentially high. Naruto fought in the 4th shinobi world for more time than anyone 4 days and only was exhausted during his fight with sasuke after his arm got blown off
Ghostmalid123

Con

I will state from now (don't let this make your choice biased) I agree with you. i grew up with Naruto (finished the series) and I must say it was fabulous. But I will debate for Monkey D. Luffy.

1) Luffy has more raw strength
2) Luffy has only one weakness
3)Naruto has to charge, while Luffy doesn't

Monkey D. Luffy is much stronger than Naruto Uzimake. Taking into consideration his Haki (Invisible Armour),Devil Fruit ( giving him the ability to stretch his body) His immense training for 2 years on Rayleigh, finally he beat up GOD. Luffy has only one weakness: Water. Naruto has many: including (but not limited too) Emotions (risked his whole life for Sasuke, the Antagonist/Protagonist at the end. Also for quite some time Sasuke hated Naruto. Even after his brother (Itachi) said he was on a mission for Konaha, Sasuke still wanted to destroy Konoha), his reckless abandon (rushing into battle). You can't say that Luffy doesn't rush into battle, but Naruto does it unprepared. When Naruto had no powers versing Mizuki, he almost died. If Osama wan't there, Naruto would have finished like that. But since Luffy has powers all the time, he is always prepared. When freeing Rorano Zoro, he freed him with ease. Also fighting Buggy he won again. Luffy has not lost accept when his opponents were using unfair methods. Crocodile used a hook and Devil Fruit Powers (sand). Luffy has won most of his battles single-handily. Naruto has not won a match without help except fighting the Kyuubi. I await your rebuttal.
Debate Round No. 1
khoury112

Pro

Monkey D Luffy is stronger than Naruto base but if we add sage mode into the mix it is pretty even, Tailed Beast Sage mode naruto easily surpasses luffy. Especially if he uses SO6P mode which empowers him to the point where he was able to subdue madara (the juubi jinchuriki with a single punch) and blitz Kagya. Luffy's weakness isn't only water, there is cutting attacks as well which is a huge weakness to him. Naruto can use all the nature's as he has the tailed beast inside of him which have those specific natures. Naruto could use those, plus he is a wind natured affinity user after all so the rasen shuriken will definitely kill him. Naruto has no weakness anymore you cannot bring sasuke into the mix as he is not apart of this battle. Naruto can form a rasengan instantly as well as a rasenshuriken by the end of series. Naruto doesn't need to charge his chakra has the kyuubi and tailed beast will just give it to him. With his natural reserves it will take forever for him to need a recharge
Ghostmalid123

Con

(the juubi jinchuriki with a single punch) this is false. Naruto did not defeat Madara and the Jinchuriki by himself. The 4th Great Ninja War was also apart of the equation. Sasuke also helped defeat Kaguya.
Naruto has no weakness anymore you cannot bring Sasuke into the mix as he is not apart of this battle. Actually you can. If we are pitting Naruto against Luffy, Sasuke would be stalking in the background because Sasuke isn't dumb. He knows when an opponent is tough. If we were to bring Sasuke in, the ninja army would come. So the pirates would come, Luffy's crew.
and blitz Kagya: well Sasuke also helped with that too. Sasuke got powers to help beat Kagya and then turned on Naruto.
Naruto doesn't need to charge his chakra has the kyuubi and tailed beast will just give it to him. But the Kyuubi needs to charge. All Luffy needs to do is wait until they run out. Yes it may take a while, but it will run out and they will need to charge. Luffy has no struggles like that. No charging, no waiting to fight. He can go in a keep fighting. If Naruto was a water user, than Luffy would easily be outmatched. But he is a air-user.

Naruto has been show on numerous occasions to be extremely fast, especially when he is in Gear 2nd however Naruto is faster. How can Naruto be faster than Naruto. That is grammar at it's finest. I'm sorry, I just wanted to point it out.

Naruto has multiple techniques that can devastate the terrain. Naruto big ball Rasengan before any of his power ups could have destroyed an entire mountain. Luffy has destroyed a buildings,and punches someone through bedrock, which is the only displays of "destruction.: He can also destroy mountains and he sank Fish man Island. I don't remember Naruto destroying an island. Your move.
Debate Round No. 2
khoury112

Pro

I meant before sasuke was revealed with his rinnegan naruto punched madara who was a jubbi jinchuriki and hurt him with a powered up fist, in the background the tree was being disturbed from the inside. Naruto can use any element which is how he used lava release and all those different rasen shurikens. Sure the kyuubi needs to charge but when he uses SO6P mode he can enter it instantly and hold it for a long time, so he could use that while the kyuubi is charging. Naruto fought for days and hasn't gotten tired since his final fight with sasuke. Naruto never destroyed an island but if a big ball rasengan normally could destroy a humongous mountain it is safe to say Naruto right now can destroy a small continent. Naruto can use a water release rasenshuriken as stated in the manga.
Ghostmalid123

Con

Naruto fought for days and hasn't gotten tired since his final fight with Sasuke. Actually he almost died because his Kyuubi was removed. He only survived thanks to Gaara and Minato. On the official wikia it says (and I quote):

"Naruto, dying from the removal of the Nine-Tails, is delivered to the reincarnated Minato Namikaze by Gaara so that the half of the Nine-Tails' chakra that Minato has can be sealed into him."
He didn't go all the way until Sasuke. He almost died." Another way that Naruto needed help was that Kakashi and Obito helped them: I quote: "Obito and Kakashi use themselves as human shields to block the attacks, with Obito also using Kamui to save Kakashi as well, though at the cost of his own life." Luffy doesn't have these problems. When facing someone like Kaguya he would have easily been annihilated. BY HIMSELF. But with help (Naruto had help) She would have died to him. Also I would like proof that he has that RASENSHURIKEN that uses water. Not to be rude, I just wanted to see proof, than I'll except it. Also you said it yourself: "Naruto never destroyed an island." Exactly he can't. He can only destroy mountains and land forms. But not islands. Again: Naruto's stamina is directly above Naruto and everyone's else. Check.
Debate Round No. 3
khoury112

Pro

khoury112 forfeited this round.
Ghostmalid123

Con

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Debate Round No. 4
khoury112

Pro

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Ghostmalid123

Con

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Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: Args: Pro points out the speed and stamina advantage of Naruto and Con agrees. con points out Luffy has more strength and Pro agrees. I didn't find the arguments for destructiveness and water weakness relevant to a head-to-head battle. So we are looking at tactics to determine the more powerful, head to head. The argument I found most compelling was the "Luffy is always prepared" whereas Naruto has situation where he has to charge and expends his powers. Naruto's strength can temporarily exceed Luffy's but if Luffy bides his time and uses patience in tactics, he can withstand the attack. Con effectively points out multiple close-losses for Naruto. In total, I found Con's rebuttals more convincing because they focues on strategy instead of power. Sources: Con used wikia to support an argument. Pro used none.