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Marine_to_be
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Jokerdude
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21 Points

DEATH PENALTY!!!

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Started: 3/2/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Marine_to_be

Con

I am against the death penalty for a number of reasons. The first and biggest reason that i am against the death penalty is because of the cost it is cheaper to keep someone in prison the rest of there life then it is to execute them (this coming from http://www.balancedpolitics.org...). Also it is unconstitutional because we are supposed to be protected from cruel and unusual punishment however i do not think that anyone can argue that the way they execute someone even by lethal injection it not cruel because the way lethal injection works is it is 3 rounds first makes you sleepy second messed with your mind and third shuts down your body. also take the electric chair they put sponges under your butt to soak up the waist from the shock, and they put a mask over you to keep you from throwing up. but not only is this cruel how is it usual to kill someone as a form of punishment. Another reason why i am against it is because ancient people die take Ray Crone who was convicted of murder and was sentenced to death in PA however DNA evidence proved that he was not guilty after he had spent years on death row. (luckily he got out before he was execute) but that is a perfect example of the justice system being flawed. we are only human so we will make mistakes.
Jokerdude

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Jokerdude forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 1
Marine_to_be

Con

Marine_to_be forfeited this round.
Jokerdude

Pro

Starting off lets just call the last two drops even, fair enough

"Less to keep them in jail then it is to execute them."
1. It only costs 86 dollars to execute a person by means of lethal injection, http://www.prodeathpenalty.com... this is about the same as one day of keeping a person in prison.

"It is cruel and unusual"
2. To correct your half baked example here is how it works, the first injection renders the inmate unconscious, the next relaxes the muscles finally the third which causes cardiac arrest, all while he is unconscious. Using the same site as above. As a side note I'd like to point out that these people on death row had already used cruel and unusual means when they murder and rape.

"Innocent lives"
3. Funny how you used a DNA example, because that even helps more in my favor. That means that it is an even more of a check to make sure the person did the crime that they are accused of. So the innocent lives lost would be astronomically lower than prior to that.

Some of my own arguments

4.In the 70's the government took the death penalty away and murders increased by over 15000 deaths once it was re-instituted the murder rate fell 130 percent. Also over 70% of most crimes are committed by a convicted felon who has been released from prison.

5. This will act as a deterrent to crime, right now its not working because it only kills a few hundred a year if all the criminals on death row were killed by the death penalty it would be a deterrent on crime.
Debate Round No. 2
Marine_to_be

Con

Marine_to_be forfeited this round.
Jokerdude

Pro

Yeah well we will see how this goes but yeah i guess im typing for the minimum words needed in the stateme
Debate Round No. 3
Marine_to_be

Con

Marine_to_be forfeited this round.
Jokerdude

Pro

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah I pull across and dam this is such a waste of space and time at least I reposted
Debate Round No. 4
Marine_to_be

Con

Marine_to_be forfeited this round.
Jokerdude

Pro

So yeah this round pretty much sucked so sorry for those of you who have actualy read this far into the debate
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Darth_Grievous_42 8 years ago
Darth_Grievous_42
17 days and basically nothing was said. What a shame.
Posted by DrAlexander 8 years ago
DrAlexander
Yes, innocents will die, rarely, but it is possible, I agree. But this is simply an implementation problem. The way the US and many other countries around the world implement the death penalty is incorrect. Theoretically the purpose of the Death Penalty is NOT to kill innocents, rather to take away the lives of those who have been sentenced to death because they committed a horrible crime beyond a reasonable doubt. So the DEATH PENALTY itself isn't killing innocents, rather the implementation. So since the topic for this debate was simply the theoretical existence of the death penalty, seeing as to how it wasn't specific, we mustn't judge it's justness, or in this case, lack of, because of implementation errors..
Posted by Derek.Gunn 8 years ago
Derek.Gunn
Sure it's more expensive to keep someone alive than kill them.
But it far better to pay that than pay the price of killing the wrong person.
Posted by Jokerdude 8 years ago
Jokerdude
Ahhhhhhhhh noooooooo sorrry had to much to do I havent been on sorry ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Posted by toria_2metal 8 years ago
toria_2metal
1% of the american is in jail, and it is not true that is alot cheaper to keep someone in jail than to kill them. It costs an average 40-50k a year to keep someone in prison.
Posted by qwerty15ster 8 years ago
qwerty15ster
I like your argument, but could you use a little more punctuation and better grammar next time?
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