Death Battle: Goku vs Superman
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Dragon Ball Z is one of the most popular anime ever released (which I'm ashamed I haven't even watched an episode). Goku was the main character in DBZ, defeating many foes. Then, another idol exists; Superman. Both characters are treasured deeply within all of us, and the debate came: Who would win in a fight: Goku, or Superman?
After careful analysis, I conclude Goku would probably win in a fight.
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Again, I claim Goku would win. The Contender must show that Superman would likely win.
Movie version of Superman would almost certainly lose, as with a few comic versions. However, I would like to point out that "Superman Prime 1 million" would totally destroy Goku, and almost everyone else in Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT (noncannon), and Dragonball Super.
I thank the Contender for accepting. Here's a few reasons why Goku would win.
Point 1; The power of Ki.
Ki is a spiritual technique used by most characters in DBZ. You can use it to create energy blasts, teleporting, and flying. It's a bit like Magic, really. And magic is one of Superman's weaknesses.
"Superman's biomatrix is his most powerful asset, but the strength of this field is also its greatest weakness. Its permeability to certain wavelengths makes him vulnerable to certain radiations, particularly magical energies whose chaotic electromagnetic or extra dimensional signatures disrupt this force field."
Again, ki isn't exactly physical. It's like magic.
Point 2; Superhuman abilities.
"Perhaps one of his most notorious traits between him and his human friends, is Goku's vast physical strength, which he has showcased across the years in many ways that far exceed those of most alien races." Goku is quite powerful.
"Another one of Goku's most important traits in combat and as a Saiyan, is his uncanny speed, which he has used to do some impressive feats across his life." Also, he's very fast. Might I say faster than a speeding bullet?
Also, he's durable, and has increased senses.
Point 3; Super Sayain.
Goku has the ability to gain more power by going Super Sayain. He has 4 levels of this, each level more powerful than the last. If need be, Super Sayain 4 is extremely powerful.
Goku is ridiculously powerful, as you can see. When he goes Super Sayain (especially SSJ4), little can match his power level. How powerful is Superman?
Goku's powers: http://dragonball.wikia.com...
Superman's weaknesses: http://dc.wikia.com...(New_Earth)#Weaknesses
(I acknowledge that Superman had several reboots, but he still has all his weaknesses.)
Powerful argument, but you have a major oversight in your first claim:
Magic =/= Ki.
From watching all of Dragon Ball, which I assumed you have, (even GT, which is NOT cannon, as Dragon Ball Super would cause a lot of plot problems in GT and has been confirmed by multiple sources) you should remember that it was stated in an episode (I do not remember which episode, and I don't have the time to look it up today) that ki is drawn from your body's life energies; whilst magic is drawn from outside source, from the environment.
While I agree Goku is really fast; Superman is way, way faster. Since movies are not cannon for Dragon Ball nor Superman, I will exclude them. Superman Prime 1 Million is basically a god. Capable of punching through dimensions, and moving much, much faster than the speed of light, Goku is beat is that approach. Both Superman and Goku have incredible durability, cannot be shot using conventional weapons, and have increased senses, which, by the way, Goku is way, way beat. Superman can hear through the vacuum of space, though light years of space in mere seconds. Something that is physically impossible, actually, something that is impossible using any sort of science or logic. Using your own quote against you "Physical strength in many ways that far exceed those of most alien races." Most being the key word. As Superman Prime, he could move entire planets with minimal effort.
SSJ4 is not cannon, so should be excluded from this debate, along with anything else from movies or GT.
While Superman cannot transform like Goku can, Superman can still transform. Superman Prime spend a vast amount of time in the core of a star, slowly gaining its power. When he emerged, he was transformed. Instead of looking human, he looked more like a solid gold animated figure. In this state, as was stated before, Superman could punch through dimensions, which would take more than... A lot of energy (Likely more than 100 trillion Joules)... Confined into a tiny space. Which would create a black hole, killing Goku. Aside from creating a Kugelblitz, Superman also...
Kryptonian Physiology: Under the effects of a "yellow" sun, Superman Prime possesses the same potential powers as an average Kryptonian.
Solar Energy Absorption: Under optimal conditions, this is the main source of Superman Prime's super powers as they are contingent upon exposure to solar radiation from a yellow sun star system. His biological make up includes a number of organs which lack analogues in humans and whose functions are unknown. It is believed that between one or more of these and his bio-cellular matrix, "yellow" solar energy is stored for later use. This allows for the use of these powers to fade when yellow solar radiation is not available instead of immediate failure.
Heat Vision: Superman Prime can, as a conscious act, fire beams of intense heat at a target by looking at it. He can vary the heat and area affected.
Super-Hearing: Superman Prime' hearing is sensitive enough to hear any sound at any volume or pitch. With skill and concentration, he can block out ambient sounds to focus on a specific source or frequency.
Enhanced Vision Superman Prime's vision processes the entire electromagnetic spectrum as well as allowing vast control over selective perception and focus.
This umbrella ability includes the following:
Electromagnetic Spectrum Vision: Superman Prime can see well into most of the electromagnetic spectrum. He can see and identify radio and television signals as well as all other broadcast or transmitted frequencies. Using this ability, he can avoid detection by radar or satellite monitoring methods. This also allows him to see the aura generated by living thing.
Telescopic Vision: This is the ability to see something at a great distance, without violating the laws of physics. Though limited, the exact extent of the ability is undetermined. In function, it is similar to the zoom lens on a camera.
X-Ray Vision: This is the ability to see through any volume of matter except lead. Superman Prime's can see things behind a solid, opaque object as if it were not there. He can focus this ability to "peel back" layers of an object, allowing hidden image or inner workings to be observed. The exact type of energy perceived - such as x-rays, cosmic rays, or some other energy invisible to normal humans - is unclear. This ability perceives an ambient energy source though, it does not involve the eye projecting a concentrated, possibly toxic, beam to be reflected back from objects.
Microscopic Vision: This is the ability to see extremely small objects and images down to the atomic level.
Infrared Vision: Superman Prime's can see with better acuity in darkness, and to a degree in total darkness.
Flight: Superman Prime is able to manipulate graviton particles to defy the forces of gravity and achieve flight. This ranges from hovering to moving in any posture, in any direction.
Invulnerability: Due to the interaction of his dense molecular structure and supercharged bio-electric aura, Superman Prime is nigh-invulnerable to extreme energy forces. In addition, his extends this protection against toxins and diseases.
Superhuman Stamina: Superman Prime is able to maintain continuous strenuous physical action for an indefinite period of time. This based on his body converting yellow solar radiation directly to energy, but is limited by physiological and psychological needs to eat, drink, and sleep.
Superhuman Strength: Superman Prime's strength is augmented by yellow solar radiation interacting with the greater than human density, resilience and biological efficiency of his musculature. His strength is more an act of conscious will on energy fields than actual physical strength. It is this act of conscious will that enables him to perform physical feats that are beyond the mere application force, such as moving a mountain top without said rock crumbling under its own mass.
Superhuman Speed: Superman Prime is able to move at incredible speed by sheer force of will. This extends to his perceptions and allows for feats such as catching bullets in mid flight as well as covering vast distances in little or no time.
This also confers:
Super-Breath: Superman Prime is able to create hurricane force winds by exhaling air from his lungs. He can chill the air as it leaves his lungs to freeze targets. He can also reverse the process to pull large volumes of air or vapor into his lungs.
Solar Supercharge: Superman Prime remained in Earth's sun for 15,000 years, increasing his abilities to unknown but presumably titanic levels--he is known to dwarf the might of even the massively powerful Kal Kent, who is himself more powerful than the gravitational pull of a collapsing star and faster than the speed of light.
Power Bequeathment: Superman Prime is noted as being capable of sharing a portion of his power with his descendants, this fraction alone itself being a degree of power "far beyond any held by any metahumans ever" (though tying them inextricably to the Super-Sun that Prime inhabits as the source of their powers).
Immortality: Superman Prime has not visibly aged since the late 20th/early 21st century.
Indomitable Will: Like the present-day Superman, Superman Prime possesses vast willpower, enough to operate a Green Lantern Power Ring.
(Yes I did copy/paste this final part, I had to go in like 5 mins.)
Superman cannot be killed by almost every type of energy.
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