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renji_abarai
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vmpire321
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Death Penalty should be abolished

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 1/14/2012 Category: Politics
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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renji_abarai

Pro

Abolished: Taken away, removed, something that has been disposed of.
Death Penalty: The decision of another human being(s) for another human being to die.

I thank my opponent in advance for accepting this debate and I hope that he will enjoy this debate.

This is debate is on whether death penalty should be abolished or not.

My position states that I am "for Death Penalty being abolished."

My opponent is "against Death Penalty being Abolished."

Rules
1. No unruly words or any offensive words
2. No sources from wikipedia
3. The arguments may not contain anything about trials that might have been tied.

I thank my opponent once again for accepting this debate and I hope he enjoys this debate and approves of the rules I have posted.
vmpire321

Con

I accept...Hopefully this will be a fun debate >.<!

I ask that this be added to the rules!

==No Plagiarism==

I also ask that we be allowed to 're-use' certain arguments (from past debates).
Debate Round No. 1
renji_abarai

Pro

renji_abarai forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Con

:/ My opponent has forfeited.

Hopefully this will be a fun debate.


==Arguments==

C1: Deterrence
The Death Penalty serves as a determent to criminals.

There is a relationship between the death penalty and murder. The deterrent effect of the death penalty helps to save lives, ultimately resulting in the overall prevention of the loss of human life [1]. Multiple studies that have occured over time have demonstrated that the death penalty saves lives [1].

Several professors of Emory University found in a 2003 nationwide study that each execution, on average, results in 18 fewer murders [6].

A 2006 study found that each execution results in five fewer homicides [7].

Shorter waits on death row is connectted with increased deterrence. For every 2.75-year reduction of the time a death row inmate has to wait, at least one murder is deterred.

The Emory group used nationwide data from 1960 to 2000,and discovered that 91% of the states had higher homicide rates after they suspended the death penalty [11]. On the other hand, 70% of the states had homicides decrease after the Death Penalty was put back in place [11].

Furthermore, a study, from the Wall Street Journal found that the death penalty saves 74 lives by stopping possible murderers in the next year [12].

C2: Bargaining Chip
The Death Penalty provides leverage and allows prosecutors to use it as a "bargaining chip" to obtain guilty pleas and plea bargains [2] [3]. The criminal justice system is sped up by the DP, which helps to prevent backlogging.
Research has shown that 90% of cases in the US are resolved by plea bargains, with the guilty party admitting to all or part of the offenses charged in exchange for reduced/lenient charges [4]. This shows

One example is the case of 12-year-old Zina Linnick's disappearance. Even a remote threat of using the death penalty could give enough of an incentive for a person to confess [3].

Another example would be serial killers Robert Yates and Gary Ridgway. The confessed due to the threat of the death penalty [3].

Without a doubt, the death penalty allows prosecutors to get information quicker. This can even possibly save lives - such as revealing the location of an abducted person about to die.


C3: Accuracy
DNA testing and other modern forms of forensic science have allowed us to eleminate all doubt or suspicsion towards a person's guilt or innoncence. DNA testing helps to effectively prosecuting the guilty and protects the innocent [8].

Furthermore, a jury of twelve have to unanimously decide that they have no doubt that the defendent is guilty in order to sentence a person to death. [9]

Furthermore, the death penalty has nearly a 99.6% rate of accuracy.

A person's average wait on the death row is 20 years [13]. This gives more than enough time for organizations such as The Innocence Project to determine whether or not they truly are guilty.


C4: Popularity
Gallup polls have shown that the majority of Americans support the Death Penalty. Our goverment is based on a republic, and a republic at its heart, is ruled by the majority.
Gallup polls reveal that:
1) There is a consistant trend of the majority supporting the death penalty being used in cases where the guilty party is convicted of murder. In 2011, 61% supported the DP while only 35% was agaisnt it.
2) Even over time, the majority of Americans believe that the Death Penalty is used not enough.
3) The majority of people believe that the death penalty is currently being applied fairly.
4) Furthermore, there is a tendency that most people believe that the Death Penalty is morally acceptable. 65% of people believe it is right, while only 28% believe it is wrong.
5) OVer time, people have constantly shown that they believe when choosing between the death penalty and imprisonment for life (without parole), the death penalty should be used.
The Gallup Poll(s) can be found at my 10th source.

[1]http://www.heritage.org.........
[2]http://sentencing.typepad.com.........
[3]http://www.thenewstribune.com.........
[4]http://www.thecrimereport.org.........
[5] Joanna M. Shepherd, "Murders of Passion, Execution Delays, and the Deterrence of Capital Punishment," Journal of Legal Studies, Vol. 33 (June 2004), pp. 283-321.
[6] Hashem Dezhbakhsh, Paul H. Rubin, and Joanna M. Shepherd, "Does Capital Punishment Have a Deterrent Effect? New Evidence from Postmoratorium Panel Data," American Law and Economics Review, Vol. 5, No. 2 (2003), pp. 344-376.
[7]http://www.washingtonpost.com.........
[8]http://www.forensicmag.com.........
[9]http://crime.about.com.........
[10]http://www.gallup.com.........
[11]http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org......
[12]http://bpp.wharton.upenn.edu......(ChronicleofHigherEd).pdf
[13] http://www.usatoday.com...

Debate Round No. 2
renji_abarai

Pro

renji_abarai forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Con

Extend arguments? What happened D:!
Debate Round No. 3
renji_abarai

Pro

renji_abarai forfeited this round.
vmpire321

Con

...Vote CON
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Multi_Pyrocytophage 5 years ago
Multi_Pyrocytophage
Woot, posting on the debate that has been left alone for a long time! I wonder if there is such a name for this type of comment.
Posted by renji_abarai 5 years ago
renji_abarai
Sorry I forfeited every round. I was not on for a long time.
Posted by PeacefulChaos 5 years ago
PeacefulChaos
Pro FF every round (except the first), but I'm giving him S&G for the heck of it.

BTW, I posted this in the comments because the computer I was on wouldn't let me finish my explanation.
Posted by kyro90 5 years ago
kyro90
Lol a whole page of comments wasted to figure out where this is occurring lolzzz
Posted by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
Lol renji.
Posted by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
*second round
Posted by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
lol of course i agree. (didn't you see my first comment >.<)

Mention this in the first round.
Posted by renji_abarai 5 years ago
renji_abarai
Couldn't he have said that then -_-. Well then, if that's the case, lets keep it in the US. Do you agree with that vmpire or do you have another place in mind?
Posted by vmpire321 5 years ago
vmpire321
Umm. I think stephen is trying to say

That in order to "abolish" something, it must exist.

So we have to specify some area with the DP, since a lot of areas have gotten rid of it.
Posted by renji_abarai 5 years ago
renji_abarai
@Stephen_Hawkins
Will you stop putting comments that seem to make no sense whatsoever on my debates please.
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