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ModernAgeSociopath
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Mysterious_Stranger
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Death Penalty

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/7/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ModernAgeSociopath

Con

I saw you say that it matters little if a criminal dies. Well I would like to counter your statement. Isn't killing one person because they killed someone else rather barbaric? In that sense all criminals should die if they have ever been charge with any sort of offense right? Oh, you were put in jail for stealing food to feed your kids! You're a criminal so yea no one will think twice if you die, you don't matter right? Their life doesn't matter. That's what you're saying? Well what if it was in self defense that they killed said person but the court found them guilty of murder and they were put to death, then later found that it really was self defense and they had no intention of hurting anyone. Does their life matter anymore? You've already killed them it's not as simple as letting them out of a cell like you could have. 1/7 people on Death Row will later be found not guilty by study. Now... in the past of lets say 35 years that number has indeed gotten smaller but think of all of those innocent, oh well wait "non-important" lives that have been ended on the idiocy of our barbaric government that still argues "if you kill someone you should die." We no longer live in Ancient Greece or Hellenistic times. Our society no longer abides by the "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" way of thought. If you really are for the Death Penalty I'm going to need a better thought than that.
Mysterious_Stranger

Pro

I shall argue in favour of the death penalty.

I present my opening arguments:

It is the ultimate warning to criminals: Many would be criminals who premeditate murder would be less inclined to commit it. Although in some cases the murder is not premeditated, would be criminals would be less inclined to go and commit crimes if they knew that the justice system would not stop at putting them to death. The death penalty would also act as a deterrent to any would be criminals as the penalty would make them realise that ultimately they would lose their life after committing murder, and thus making them reconsider even committing the crime in the first place.

It provides more closure to victims than a prison sentence: When the murderer kills the victim they are ultimately ruining the lives of the family and friends of the victim, their grief begins with the victims murder and may not end with the murderer's execution but the execution does generate a feeling of relief at no longer having to think about the ordeal,a feeling which often fails to arise while the murderer is still alive. A system in place for the purpose of granting justice cannot do so for the surviving victims, unless the murderer them-self is put to death.

It is all criminals fear: If one were to read about Ted Bundy's time in prison one would find he spent his nine years on death row trying to avoid execution, you will see that Bundy and his lawyers exhausted every legal point they could think of to spare him execution. He often "defended" himself in prison interviews by blaming pornography for his tendency to see women as objects. He attempted to have his sentence changed to life without parole claiming that he would have been a good person if pornography had not existed. After this strategy failed he began to confess to where he buried missing victim's bodies, so that their families could receive closure, he never once showed remorse for his crimes, he obviously feared death and would do anything to avoid it. He also did not fear life imprisonment, at least not as much as he feared the death penalty. Many would be killers would not have committed their terrible crimes out of fear of capital punishment.

It is the best answer to murder: The justice system basically attempts to hand out punishment that fits the crime. Severe crimes result in imprisonment. Petty theft is not treated with the severity that is meted to grand theft auto, and the latter, consequently, receives more time in prison. So if severe, but non-lethal violence toward another is found deserving of life without parole, then why should premeditated homicide be given the very same punishment? This fact might induce a would-be criminal to go ahead and kill the victim he has already mugged and crippled. Why would it matter, after all? His sentence could not get any worse. If murder is the wilful deprivation of a victim"s right to life, then the justice system"s wilful deprivation of the criminal"s right to the same is, even if overly severe a punishment which fits the most severe crime that can be committed. Without capital punishment, it could be argued that the justice system makes no provision in response to the crime of murder, and thus provides no justice for the victim or their family.

Sources:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...
Debate Round No. 1
ModernAgeSociopath

Con

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Mysterious_Stranger

Pro

con has forfeited, vote pro.
Debate Round No. 2
ModernAgeSociopath

Con

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Mysterious_Stranger

Pro

Another forfeit... Well that was fun. Vote pro.
Debate Round No. 3
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Vote Placed by Ragnar 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con made minimal arguments, then forfeited leaving Pro's arguments unanswered -- an easy win for Pro. Pro should link references to specific arguments; I think in-line links are best but a numbered citation after the sentence is conventional. Pro dropped the argument of wrongful convictions. The convictions ere reversed upon appeals, so there are very few cases, if any, of wrongful execution in modern times. Juries now demand DNA evidence, something called "the CSI effect." The death penalty probably doesn't deter crimes of passion, but contract killings, gang killings, and to some lesser extent thrill killers are arguably deterred.
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