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Death Penalty

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/12/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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snelld7

Con

It is just as "closurable" to have this person locked away from society. It serves the same purpose (making sure he can't do it to any other innocent bistander)! We, as human beings, have no right to decide who lives and dies, that's why we locked the criminals that kill in jails. So by then killing them, we have made it counter productive to the message we're suppose to be getting out (We, as human beings, have no right to decide who lives and dies; Killing is wrong).

DEATH PENALTY IS HYPOCRACY!!!!!
oh_so_fast

Pro

Prison: There are three purposes for prison. First, prison separates criminals for the safety of the general population. Second, prison is a form of punishment. Third and finally, the punishment of prison is expected to rehabilitate prisoners; so that when prisoners are released from prison, these ex-convicts are less likely to repeat their crimes and risk another prison sentence. The logic for capital punishment is that prisons are for rehabilitating convicts who will eventually leave prison, and therefore prison is not for people who would never be released from prisons alive.

Cost of Prison: Typically, the cost of imprisoning someone for life is much more expensive than executing that same person. However with the expensive costs of appeals in courts of law, it is arguable if capital punishment is truly cost effective when compared with the cost of life imprisonment.

Safety: Criminals who receive the death penalty are typically violent individuals. Therefore for the safety of the prison's guards, other prisoners, and the general public (in case a death row inmate escapes prison), then logic dictates that safety is a reason for capital punishment.

Deters Crime: There is no scientific proof that nations with capital punishment have a lower rate of crime, therefore the risk of the death penalty does not seem to deter crime.

Extreme Punishment: The logic is that the more severe the crime, then the more severe the punishment is necessary. But what is the most severe punishment: lifetime in prison or execution? I am not sure that anyone alive is qualified to answer this question.

Appropriate Punishment: It is commonly believed that the punishment of a crime should equal the crime, if possible. This is also known as "an eye for eye" justice. Therefore using this logic, the appropriate punishment for murder is death.

Vengeance: Some crimes are so horrific that some people think that revenge or retribution is the only option. This reasoning is not based on logic; but rather, it is based on emotions. Therefore, this reason should not be deemed a valid justification.
Debate Round No. 1
snelld7

Con

I will put each of your contentions into numbers to keep confusion out of the way.

(prison argument) 1) "Third and finally, the punishment of prison is expected to rehabilitate prisoners; so that when prisoners are released from prison, these ex-convicts are less likely to repeat their crimes and risk another prison sentence. The logic for capital punishment is that prisons are for rehabilitating convicts who will eventually leave prison, and therefore prison is not for people who would never be released from prisons alive."

If this is what the death penalty is for than there wouldn't be a such thing as a life in prison sentance.

(Cost of prisons) 2) The cost of life in prison is actually less than the death penalty. With this being said, cost has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the death penalty being in place.

(Safety) 3) Generally speaking, people in prisons are violent individuals all together. Capital Punishment is legal as of right now, and prisons are still unsafe. If what you're saying is the case, then why (with these "violent criminals" being executed) is prison still dangerous?

(Deters crime) 4) ??????????????????????????????????????????? You refuted your own point, was there a reason to even post this contention?

(Extreme Punishment) 5) "The logic is that the more severe the crime, then the more severe the punishment is necessary. But what is the most severe punishment: lifetime in prison or execution? I am not sure that anyone alive is qualified to answer this question."~you!

If no one allive is qualified to make this decision then why are we making it?? (strike 2 on you refuting your own point)

(Appropriate punishment) 6) By this very sme logic [....] You should be raped if you rape; Have your hand chopped off or be stolen from if you're a thief; be constantly assaulted if you assault someone...etc

A government (national or state wide) is no place for Hammurabi's code to be enforced. It is clearly unjust and unacceptable

(Vengence) 7) Revenge isn't what the criminal justice program should be enforcing, But justice is. And if life in prison serves the same punishment as a death penalty...It is clear that we should be picking the one that doesn't involve the taking of a life (seeing as how we are in a society where everyone is seen as equal.)
oh_so_fast

Pro

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Debate Round No. 2
snelld7

Con

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oh_so_fast

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
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